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fsj-digest          Friday, August 12 2011          Volume 01 : Number 3764



Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps
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Contents:

	fsj: Things not to do! 
	Re: fsj: Things not to do! 
	Re: fsj: Things not to do!
	Re: fsj: amc v8 dual exhaust

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Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:59:16 -0500
From: Kim Tesar <ltesar3421-at-sbcglobal.net>
Subject: fsj: Things not to do! 

Hi all,  a couple lessons learned...and a question...

Do not expect that a previous owner has necessarily checked the  
transfer case fluid level in your fsj.  2 for 2 here, they did not.

Do NOT reuse your leaf spring U-bolts, they will stretch, and not  
even come close to accepting the torque previously applied to them.

Do not plug the intake air for the PCV system on your old engine.   
This is also an exit path for blowby out of the crankcase when there  
is more air entering the crankcase than can exit through the PCV  
valve, and this is worst under high load, when there is no vacuum at  
the PCV exit back to the carburettor.  This will make any marginal  
engine seals blow out from the excess air.  At least let it exit back  
into the air intake.

When attempting to use the Prothane spring isolator pads, do not  
expect the bushings that fit over the spring locating nubs to extend  
them through the spring isolators and into the locating holes in the  
axle pads.  They will not fit.  Do not expect your stock nubs to be  
long enough.  (I have not concluded that I want to drill out the axle  
pads to fit these)  Also do not expect the isolator pads to fit over  
the springs but inside the U-bolts.  They will not and must be  
relieved to fit.

OK, finally, the question.  At what angle should the front  
differential be?  Is is possible that I rotated the axle, or are the  
axle pads welded on the axle (they look like they are attached.)

Thanks, all.  Hope you're having good fsj fun.

- - Landon
79 J10

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Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:18:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Things not to do! 

excellent info...

isn't it about 3 degrees or so?  do a google search and share, if I get time I will look it up.

john



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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Kim Tesar wrote:

 # Hi all,  a couple lessons learned...and a question...
 # 
 # Do not expect that a previous owner has necessarily checked the transfer case
 # fluid level in your fsj.  2 for 2 here, they did not.
 # 
 # Do NOT reuse your leaf spring U-bolts, they will stretch, and not even come
 # close to accepting the torque previously applied to them.
 # 
 # Do not plug the intake air for the PCV system on your old engine.  This is
 # also an exit path for blowby out of the crankcase when there is more air
 # entering the crankcase than can exit through the PCV valve, and this is worst
 # under high load, when there is no vacuum at the PCV exit back to the
 # carburettor.  This will make any marginal engine seals blow out from the
 # excess air.  At least let it exit back into the air intake.
 # 
 # When attempting to use the Prothane spring isolator pads, do not expect the
 # bushings that fit over the spring locating nubs to extend them through the
 # spring isolators and into the locating holes in the axle pads.  They will not
 # fit.  Do not expect your stock nubs to be long enough.  (I have not concluded
 # that I want to drill out the axle pads to fit these)  Also do not expect the
 # isolator pads to fit over the springs but inside the U-bolts.  They will not
 # and must be relieved to fit.
 # 
 # OK, finally, the question.  At what angle should the front differential be?
 # Is is possible that I rotated the axle, or are the axle pads welded on the
 # axle (they look like they are attached.)
 # 
 # Thanks, all.  Hope you're having good fsj fun.
 # 
 # - Landon
 # 79 J10
 # 

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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 05:21:31 +0000
From: john <fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Things not to do!

Thanx
- ------Original Message------
From: Terry-au
To: J
Subject: Re: fsj: Things not to do!
Sent: Aug 10, 2011 22:19

6 degrees is the average any less then 5 and the truck will vibrate.

On 11/08/2011 3:18:05 PM, john (john-at-wagoneers.com) wrote:
 > excellent info...
 >
 > isn't it about 3 degrees or so?  do a google search and share, if 
I get time I will look it up.
 >
 > john
 >
 >
 >
 > -----
 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 > -o|||||o-  fahrvergnugen y'all
 > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs
 > don't rust, they mold
 > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461
 > http://JohnMeister.com  HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM  http://fotomeister.us
 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 >
 >
 > On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Kim Tesar wrote:
 >
 > # Hi all,  a couple lessons learned...and a question...
 > #
 > # Do not expect that a previous owner has necessarily checked the 
transfer case
 > # fluid level in your fsj.  2 for 2 here, they did not.
 > #
 > # Do NOT reuse your leaf spring U-bolts, they will stretch, and 
not even come
 > # close to accepting the torque previously applied to them.
 > #
 > # Do not plug the intake air for the PCV system on your old engine.  This is
 > # also an exit path for blowby out of the crankcase when there is more air
 > # entering the crankcase than can exit through the PCV valve, and 
this is worst
 > # under high load, when there is no vacuum at the PCV exit back



__john_at_http://wagoneers.com__

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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 07:56:44 -0700
From: Michel Balea <michelbalea-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: amc v8 dual exhaust

I do not see the dual exhaust in the 74 TSM.

But as Jim said, a little advance will wake up the engine. The 74 stock
timing is 5, but 12 is a lot better.

On the 85 after a little high altitude adventure I set it at 18 vs. 12 stock
and when you stomp the skinny pedal, it was quite a lot of thrust when I was
back at sea level.... of course the mileage dropped from 14.5 to 13.2, but
due probably to the skinny pedal effect.

Cheers

Michel

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Troy Phagan <tsp-at-crptruck.com> wrote:

> I was looking at the Wikipedia entry for AMC v-8s:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**AMC_V8_engine<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_V8_engine>
>
> There is a long chart of HP / TQ ratings.  I noticed the 360 and 401's had
> dual exhaust options available (Example year 1974.)
> The dual exhaust setups add 20-25HP in the ratings.  That seems quite a
> substantial difference to me, especially for that era.
>
> Does anyone know, or can conjecture if there were other differences that
> would account for it, such as Cat. Converter vs. Non-Cat... State of CA vs.
> Federal emissions or other differences?  I'd especially like to know how big
> the single exhaust was compared to the dual??    The bottom-line question is
> how much/ big exhaust is an ideal size?
>
> FWIW, there is a noticeable difference between 2B and 4B setups too.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> -Troy

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