From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Aug 21 14:14:38 2011 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Sunday, August 21 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3779 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window regulator and motor assembly Re: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window regulator and motor assembly RE: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window regulator and motor assembly Re: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window regulator and motor assembly fsj: put the popcorn down... RE: fsj: put the popcorn down... fsj: Re: [WJ-Grand] put the popcorn down... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 15:27:26 -0500 From: Ken Gaines Subject: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window regulator and motor assembly Anyone have any pics of their late model Waggy's tailgate window mechanism? I just spoke to the PO today and he said he didn't have the window motor and wasn't sure about the regulator assembly. Could anyone help me out with this? I have a line on a couple of window motors for sure but I am pulling up a big zero for the regulator. I may need to find one if it in fact is not there when I get the truck. Pics of how the thing all goes together would be greatly appreciated. That way I can make sure if I have all the parts or not. I hope the A/C works otherwise it's gonna be a long, hot drive from Oklahoma back to Shreveport, LA. Thanks in advance guys! KG - -- Ken Gaines Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman Red River Oil & Gas, LLC (318) 227-4870 <%28318%29227-4870> Office (318) 422-5731 <%28318%29422-5731> Mobile arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com http://www.rrog.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:48:48 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window regulator and motor assembly I've got some info and a variety of pictures at http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech or is tech capitalized? :) - ------Original Message------ From: Ken Gaines Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net To: FSJ ReplyTo: Ken Gaines Subject: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window regulator and motor assembly Sent: Aug 20, 2011 13:27 Anyone have any pics of their late model Waggy's tailgate window mechanism? I just spoke to the PO today and he said he didn't have the window motor and wasn't sure about the regulator assembly. Could anyone help me out with this? I have a line on a couple of window motors for sure but I am pulling up a big zero for the regulator. I may need to find one if it in fact is not there when I get the truck. Pics of how the thing all goes together would be greatly appreciated. That way I can make sure if I have all the parts or not. I hope the A/C works otherwise it's gonna be a long, hot drive from Oklahoma back to Shreveport, LA. Thanks in advance guys! KG - -- Ken Gaines Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman Red River Oil & Gas, LLC (318) 227-4870 <%28318%29227-4870> Office (318) 422-5731 <%28318%29422-5731> Mobile arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com http://www.rrog.net __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:32:14 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window regulator and motor assembly I think the tailgate motor assembly is the same from -at-82 up? I'll check if napa carries them. > Subject: Re: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window regulator and motor assembly > To: arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com > Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:48:48 +0000 > > I've got some info and a variety of pictures at http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech or is tech capitalized? :) > > > ------Original Message------ > From: Ken Gaines > Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net > To: FSJ > ReplyTo: Ken Gaines > Subject: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window regulator and motor assembly > Sent: Aug 20, 2011 13:27 > > Anyone have any pics of their late model Waggy's tailgate window mechanism? > I just spoke to the PO today and he said he didn't have the window motor and > wasn't sure about the regulator assembly. Could anyone help me out with > this? I have a line on a couple of window motors for sure but I am pulling > up a big zero for the regulator. I may need to find one if it in fact is not > there when I get the truck. Pics of how the thing all goes together would be > greatly appreciated. That way I can make sure if I have all the parts or > not. > I hope the A/C works otherwise it's gonna be a long, hot drive from Oklahoma > back to Shreveport, LA. > Thanks in advance guys! > KG > -- > Ken Gaines > Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman > Red River Oil & Gas, LLC > (318) 227-4870 <%28318%29227-4870> Office > (318) 422-5731 <%28318%29422-5731> Mobile > arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com > http://www.rrog.net > > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:39:08 -0500 From: Ken Gaines Subject: Re: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window regulator and motor assembly Thanks, Jim! I just hope the regulator assembly is all there. The PO wasn't sure if he had removed it or not and I don't want to have my dad taking the tailgate of a GW apart in 106F temps today. I asked the PO if he had removed the "thing with the long arms and two large gears" when he took the motor out. He didn't recall. I guess this is a good thing since he would probably remember wrestling that thing outta the tailgate if he had. The tailgate window is held up right now with a well-thought-out bracket under the window and a small block of wood. If the whole regulator is gone, what are the chances of finding one in good working order...or in at least workable shape? On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Jim Blair wrote: > I think the tailgate motor assembly is the same from -at-82 up? I'll check if > napa carries them. > > > Subject: Re: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window > regulator and motor assembly > > To: arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net > > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com > > Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20 <201120>:48:48 +0000 > > > > I've got some info and a variety of pictures at > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech or is tech capitalized? :) > > > > > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Ken Gaines > > Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net > > To: FSJ > > ReplyTo: Ken Gaines > > Subject: fsj: Pic request for late model Waggy tailgate window regulator > and > motor assembly > > Sent: Aug 20, 2011 13 <201113>:27 > > > > Anyone have any pics of their late model Waggy's tailgate window > mechanism? > > I just spoke to the PO today and he said he didn't have the window motor > and > > wasn't sure about the regulator assembly. Could anyone help me out with > > this? I have a line on a couple of window motors for sure but I am > pulling > > up a big zero for the regulator. I may need to find one if it in fact is > not > > there when I get the truck. Pics of how the thing all goes together would > be > > greatly appreciated. That way I can make sure if I have all the parts or > > not. > > I hope the A/C works otherwise it's gonna be a long, hot drive from > Oklahoma > > back to Shreveport, LA. > > Thanks in advance guys! > > KG > > -- > > Ken Gaines > > Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman > > Red River Oil & Gas, LLC > > (318) 227-4870 <%28318%29227-4870> Office > > (318) 422-5731 <%28318%29422-5731> Mobile > > arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com > > http://www.rrog.net > > > > > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ > - -- Ken Gaines Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman Red River Oil & Gas, LLC (318) 227-4870 <%28318%29227-4870> Office (318) 422-5731 <%28318%29422-5731> Mobile arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com http://www.rrog.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 22:55:46 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: put the popcorn down... ...nothing to see here... just another car in the driveway... :) just bought a very nice 1987 Mercedes 300D... 238,000 miles... paint is better than what was on my '91 300D! the guy was the 2nd owner... has the original window sticker, purchased at Phil Smart here in Seattle! whoo hoo... a local car to boot!!! original windshield in it too... amazingly clean... http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/CARS/1987-300D-WA/ALL.html didn't really plan on buying it... was just going to look at it, then at another one on the way back home and another one on Monday... but it was just too good to pass up... before I knew it we were writing a check and signing papers... Selling one of the Jettas for home improvement projects... the 300D is not perfect... need to charge the a/c, the compressor was just replaced, the trip odometer, clock and outside temp don't work... but the cruise control did, all the windows, sunroof... has new bridgestone tires, new brembo slotted rotors and brakes, fresh fuel filters, only 238k miles on it... owner claims 37 highway, 35 mpg combined rural... it's the 3.0L I-6. The engine pulls steady and smooth, not as radical as the Jetta's TDIs, it's smoother and relentless... It may need shocks, it does float and wander a lot more than I remember my '91... but it doesn't have the expensive auto leveling system... so it's normal "shocks". Driving it home was like sitting in my leather recliner (even though it has MBTex ;). I'd forgotten that some cars can drive over manual covers without feeling them... We've decided to keep the white '02 Jetta TDI with the automatic for my wife. So it looks like my '03 Jetta TDI wagon will be going up for sale as soon as I get all my stuff out of it and the a/c working in the "new" benz. Hopefully will have it ready for sale by next weekend. The Silver 2003 Jetta TDI Wagon has a 5 speed, with a new 11mm pump, glow plugs, timing belt, water pump and fuel injectors (the Injection pump is 11mm vs. the stock 10mm so it has around 20% more power) It has gotten 48mpg with this new pump, it did about 52 mpg with the old pump. It averaged 45 mpg on the trip in May to Chicago cruising at the legal limit all the way even in the Rockies. Cruise and a/c and all electricals work as designed. Mechanically it's in outstanding condition and will roast the front tires. In 3rd gear you can go from 30 mph or so to 70 mph in a very short period of time... I call it the perfect merging gear. And there's two left after that one... I don't know when 4th ends... I know that passing at 70mph going up hill you can go from 5th to 4th and be doing over 90mph before your wife asks why you're going so fast... the tach wasn't near redline yet... in the Rockies, up hill!!! ...so someone without a wife needs to buy this and tell me what 4th and 5th gear top speeds are. :) It has the Panzer skid plate, and a new oil pan, new brakes in front, good tires, air lifts in the rear, a hitch, it's full leather (black) with the Monsoon stereo, GLS trim, heated seats... good tires, silverstar bulbs, moonroof, etc. Has the factory key fob for remote entry / alarm. It's been getting right around 40mpg on the commute to work. It's a great little car with just TWO issues: 1) it's a manual and there are times that my back has started to mess up and if I'd been stuck in traffic I would have had to pull over... that and my wife can't drive a stick... and then 2) it has about $2k in body damage... I've owned it for over a year and it's not extremely noticeable, and when someone asks and you say you bought it that way it's the end of the story. If it didn't have the damage I could ask close to $11k and likely get close to that... so I'm going to ask $8.5K. Delivery is possible for fuel/lodging and return tickets... ;) Oh, it has 145,000 miles on it. I'll miss it... but after just driving this '87 300D over 100 miles, not much... :) It is a german built estate... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 23:46:30 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: put the popcorn down... I've been looking at cars too (found a 710 wagon with auto for $500 needing a motor and fresh paint) I could yank the Z24 motor from my '85 Datsun 720 that was smacked by a hit and run driver (I'm making a trailer out of it anyways) and have a decent little car for my wife that's inexpensive to operate and she can sell the '01 $ubaru before something expensive happens! (I was told we are about 50,000 miles past the point of blown headgasket on the 2.5L) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 22:55:46 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: > Subject: fsj: put the popcorn down... > > ...nothing to see here... just another car in the driveway... :) > > just bought a very nice 1987 Mercedes 300D... 238,000 miles... paint is better than what was on my '91 300D! > the guy was the 2nd owner... has the original window sticker, purchased at Phil Smart here in Seattle! > whoo hoo... a local car to boot!!! original windshield in it too... amazingly clean... > > http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/CARS/1987-300D-WA/ALL.html > > didn't really plan on buying it... was just going to look at it, then at another one on the way back > home and another one on Monday... but it was just too good to pass up... before I > knew it we were writing a check and signing papers... Selling one of the Jettas for home improvement > projects... > > the 300D is not perfect... need to charge the a/c, the compressor was just replaced, the > trip odometer, clock and outside temp don't work... but the cruise control did, all > the windows, sunroof... has new bridgestone tires, new brembo slotted rotors and brakes, > fresh fuel filters, only 238k miles on it... owner claims 37 highway, 35 mpg combined > rural... it's the 3.0L I-6. The engine pulls steady and smooth, not as radical as the Jetta's TDIs, > it's smoother and relentless... It may need shocks, it does float and wander a lot more than > I remember my '91... but it doesn't have the expensive auto leveling system... so it's normal "shocks". > > Driving it home was like sitting in my leather recliner (even though it has MBTex ;). > I'd forgotten that some cars can drive over manual covers without feeling them... > > > We've decided to keep the white '02 Jetta TDI with the automatic for my wife. So it > looks like my '03 Jetta TDI wagon will be going up for sale as soon as I get all > my stuff out of it and the a/c working in the "new" benz. Hopefully will have it ready for sale > by next weekend. > > The Silver 2003 Jetta TDI Wagon has a 5 speed, with a new 11mm pump, glow plugs, timing belt, > water pump and fuel injectors (the Injection pump is 11mm vs. the stock 10mm so it > has around 20% more power) It has gotten 48mpg with this new pump, it did about 52 mpg > with the old pump. It averaged 45 mpg on the trip in May to Chicago cruising at the > legal limit all the way even in the Rockies. Cruise and a/c and all electricals work as designed. > Mechanically it's in outstanding condition and will roast the front tires. In 3rd gear you can > go from 30 mph or so to 70 mph in a very short period of time... I call it the perfect merging gear. > And there's two left after that one... I don't know when 4th ends... I know that passing at 70mph going > up hill you can go from 5th to 4th and be doing over 90mph before your wife asks why you're going so fast... > the tach wasn't near redline yet... in the Rockies, up hill!!! ...so someone without a wife needs to > buy this and tell me what 4th and 5th gear top speeds are. :) > > It has the Panzer skid plate, and a new oil pan, new brakes in front, good tires, air lifts in the > rear, a hitch, it's full leather (black) with the Monsoon stereo, GLS trim, heated seats... > good tires, silverstar bulbs, moonroof, etc. Has the factory key fob for remote entry / alarm. > > It's been getting right around 40mpg on the commute to work. It's a great little car with > just TWO issues: 1) it's a manual and there are times that my back has started to mess up > and if I'd been stuck in traffic I would have had to pull over... that and my wife can't > drive a stick... and then 2) it has about $2k in body damage... I've owned it for over a year > and it's not extremely noticeable, and when someone asks and you say you bought it that > way it's the end of the story. If it didn't have the damage I could ask close to $11k and > likely get close to that... so I'm going to ask $8.5K. Delivery is possible for fuel/lodging and > return tickets... ;) Oh, it has 145,000 miles on it. > > I'll miss it... but after just driving this '87 300D over 100 miles, not much... :) > It is a german built estate... > > john > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:13:21 +0000 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [WJ-Grand] put the popcorn down... Also having a half acre on a hillside helps. I was able to carve out a wider driveway that can park 4 to 5 cars end to end, a space in front of the garage, 1 to 2 in the garage, 1 to 2 alongside, 2 to 3 by the fence and 2 up at the entrance to the english garden. And I can also park about six end to end at the top of the property. And not have a problem mowing any of the three lawn areas, or getting in and out. __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ - -----Original Message----- From: "dave" Sender: WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:06:12 To: Reply-To: WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [WJ-Grand] put the popcorn down... Yep I missed a few of yours on the "recently owned" list. There are just too many vehicles of yours, for me to remember off the top of my head. Lol I usually have 5 at one time but have cut that down to 4 this year and may even reduce it more down to 3. I can only drive 1 at a time (only driver in the family at the present) and do not want to pay insurance and taxes on vehicles I drive very seldom. As long as you and the misses are very happy with your "Used Car Lot"! ;-) later, dave AKA vwdoc1 1999 WJ Laredo 4.0l 42RE 242J _____ From: WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com [mailto:WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:35 AM To: WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WJ-Grand] put the popcorn down... http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html I think you missed a few, or got them out of order. :) __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ _____ From: "dave" Sender: WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 07:07:26 -0500 To: ReplyTo: WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [WJ-Grand] put the popcorn down... Congrats on finding that MB without being forced one. Lets see you bought a Jeep, lost the MB, bought the Rav4, sold the WJ, bought another TDI, sold the Rav4, bought a MB all within a year's time. Did I miss any and is my chronology off? YEP you have cars on the mind! lol I am leisurely looking for an "inexpensive" TDI close to me. I think I would like the smaller Golf to get max MPG out of it, and I don't mind one I need to mechanically restore. I might even settle for just an older diesel if the price is right. ;-) Good luck on your sale! later, dave AKA vwdoc1 _____ From: WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com [mailto:WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:56 AM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: [WJ-Grand] put the popcorn down... ...nothing to see here... just another car in the driveway... :) just bought a very nice 1987 Mercedes 300D... 238,000 miles... paint is better than what was on my '91 300D! the guy was the 2nd owner... has the original window sticker, purchased at Phil Smart here in Seattle! whoo hoo... a local car to boot!!! original windshield in it too... amazingly clean... http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/CARS/1987-300D-WA/ALL.html didn't really plan on buying it... was just going to look at it, then at another one on the way back home and another one on Monday... but it was just too good to pass up... before I knew it we were writing a check and signing papers... Selling one of the Jettas for home improvement projects... the 300D is not perfect... need to charge the a/c, the compressor was just replaced, the trip odometer, clock and outside temp don't work... but the cruise control did, all the windows, sunroof... has new bridgestone tires, new brembo slotted rotors and brakes, fresh fuel filters, only 238k miles on it... owner claims 37 highway, 35 mpg combined rural... it's the 3.0L I-6. The engine pulls steady and smooth, not as radical as the Jetta's TDIs, it's smoother and relentless... It may need shocks, it does float and wander a lot more than I remember my '91... but it doesn't have the expensive auto leveling system... so it's normal "shocks". Driving it home was like sitting in my leather recliner (even though it has MBTex ;). I'd forgotten that some cars can drive over manual covers without feeling them... We've decided to keep the white '02 Jetta TDI with the automatic for my wife. So it looks like my '03 Jetta TDI wagon will be going up for sale as soon as I get all my stuff out of it and the a/c working in the "new" benz. Hopefully will have it ready for sale by next weekend. The Silver 2003 Jetta TDI Wagon has a 5 speed, with a new 11mm pump, glow plugs, timing belt, water pump and fuel injectors (the Injection pump is 11mm vs. the stock 10mm so it has around 20% more power) It has gotten 48mpg with this new pump, it did about 52 mpg with the old pump. It averaged 45 mpg on the trip in May to Chicago cruising at the legal limit all the way even in the Rockies. Cruise and a/c and all electricals work as designed. Mechanically it's in outstanding condition and will roast the front tires. In 3rd gear you can go from 30 mph or so to 70 mph in a very short period of time... I call it the perfect merging gear. And there's two left after that one... I don't know when 4th ends... I know that passing at 70mph going up hill you can go from 5th to 4th and be doing over 90mph before your wife asks why you're going so fast... the tach wasn't near redline yet... in the Rockies, up hill!!! ...so someone without a wife needs to buy this and tell me what 4th and 5th gear top speeds are. :) It has the Panzer skid plate, and a new oil pan, new brakes in front, good tires, air lifts in the rear, a hitch, it's full leather (black) with the Monsoon stereo, GLS trim, heated seats... good tires, silverstar bulbs, moonroof, etc. Has the factory key fob for remote entry / alarm. It's been getting right around 40mpg on the commute to work. It's a great little car with just TWO issues: 1) it's a manual and there are times that my back has started to mess up and if I'd been stuck in traffic I would have had to pull over... that and my wife can't drive a stick... and then 2) it has about $2k in body damage... I've owned it for over a year and it's not extremely noticeable, and when someone asks and you say you bought it that way it's the end of the story. If it didn't have the damage I could ask close to $11k and likely get close to that... so I'm going to ask $8.5K. Delivery is possible for fuel/lodging and return tickets... ;) Oh, it has 145,000 miles on it. I'll miss it... but after just driving this '87 300D over 100 miles, not much... :) It is a german built estate... john - ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ---------------------------------------------------------- size=1 width="100%" noshade color="#aca899" align=center> No virus found in this message. 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