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Re: fsj: Drove it home
Re: fsj: Drove it home
Re: fsj: Drove it home
Re: fsj: Drove it home
Re: fsj: Drove it home
fsj: Cascade Loop.... or...
fsj: RE: Loose u-joint FOILED a 26 hr drive to buy... wrong yoke or ujoint?
RE: fsj: Cascade Loop.... or...
Re: fsj: Cascade Loop.... or...
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 13:09:07 -0500
From: Ken Gaines <arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Drove it home
Looks like I have a second weekend project. The first is putting together
the storage shed in the backyard that has been there for a month. The heat
here has just been too oppressive to get out in the sun and put a metal
building together.
Seriously, though...I really do think I can get the tailgate working. I
looked at the wiring back there and I think I may have found what is
supposed to be the 6-wire bundle that hooks into the rear paddle switch.
There are 6 wires on one end and a harness plug on the other. Does this
sound about right to anyone? I found the harness sitting loose under the
rear seat.
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:33 AM, T.Halmshaw <timesawastin-at-bigpond.com>wrote:
> *No need to run a wire from under the hood, remove the battery place
> in the back with you, unplug safety switch and join the two wires
> together to close the circuit, use jumper leads and connect the black
> one to the steel hinge that supports the gate when it's open, this ensures
> a good connection.
>
> Then drill a small hole in the + terminal and run a wire probe from there.
>
> This is all you need, test the wires running to the motor, no need to check
>
> both as polarity reversal is all that the switches do, if the motor runs
> then
> check switches with a OHM's meter, my bet is the motor and switches
> are just fine and that the plug that runs behind the bumper ha corroded
> and you either have no - or no + due to the wires corroding.
>
> Good luck with it.
>
> Terry.
>
> *
> On 7/09/2011 12:42:12 PM, Ken Gaines (arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com) wrote:
> > Very cool! If I need it I will let you know and we can work out shipping,
> > etc.
> > I
> > haven't hot wired it yet. Could I just run a hot wire from the battery to
> the two wires coming off of the safety switch and then run another one to
> ground to test the motor and regulator operation? On Sep 6, 2011 5:46 PM,
> "T.Halmshaw" <timesawastin-at-bigpond.com [link:
> mailto:timesawastin-at-bigpond.com <timesawastin-at-bigpond.com>]> wrote:
> > > I have a paddle switch should the need arise.
> > > Have you tried hot wiring the tailgate yet, easiest
> > > way to diagnose faults.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > Terry.
> > >
> > > On 7/09/2011 2:02:18 AM, Ken Gaines (arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com [link:
> mailto:arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com]) wrote:
> > > > What little connectors? This part of FSJdom is new to me. I have
> always
> > > > just
> > > > tried to keep the things running...never a complete restoration to
> full
> > > > glory. If I needlessly bought a new brain, that just means I have a
> > > > spare...right? LOL
> > > >
> > > > Already considered the dual batteries and the answer is a yes. That
> is
> > > > just
> > > > another item on the ever-growing TO DO list.
> > > >
> > > > As for the tailgate...I knew it was going to be a problem when I got
> the
>
- --
Ken Gaines
Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman
Red River Oil & Gas, LLC
(318) 227-4870 Office
(318) 422-5731 Mobile
arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com
http://www.rrog.net
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 16:43:46 -0500
From: Ken Gaines <arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Drove it home
The 6-pin harness was just laying there loose under the seat, not connected
to anything. It looked a LOT like the wiring shown in the Ipendia link/site
I found showing how to replace the paddle switch with a DPDT switch. I'll
have to take a pic of it and post it up later. Basically, the little harness
I found had 6 wires protruding from a small plug at the other end. They were
terminated in small loop-end connectors that would have been a perfect fit
for the paddle switch terminals shown on that site. the whole wiring
assembly was just laying there. I nearly pitched it but now I am very glad I
didn't. Isn't one of those wires supposed to be hot all the time? If so,
that would explain why it had been removed...prevent the hot lead from
grounding out to the body.
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:36 PM, T.Halmshaw <timesawastin-at-bigpond.com> wrote:
> *Never seen a 6 pin plug under the rear seat, nothing comes to mind
> anyway, perhaps someone can shed some light on this, I will check
> my wrecks today, but I am 99.9% sure there is no plug.
>
> That's not to say the harness has not been joined, if so I would put
> in my serious eyes and have a good look :)
>
> Terry.
>
> *
> On 8/09/2011 4:09:07 AM, Ken Gaines (arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com) wrote:
> > Looks like I have a second weekend project. The first is putting together
> > the storage shed in the backyard that has been there for a month. The
> > heat
> > here has just been too oppressive to get out in the sun and put a metal
> > building together.
> >
> > Seriously, though...I really do think I can get the tailgate working. I
> > looked at the wiring back there and I think I may have found what is
> > supposed to be the 6-wire bundle that hooks into the rear paddle switch.
> > There are 6 wires on one end and a harness plug on the other. Does this
> > sound about right to anyone? I found the harness sitting loose under the
> > rear seat.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:33 AM, T.Halmshaw <timesawastin-at-bigpond.
> > com>wrote:
> >
> > > *No need to run a wire from under the hood, remove the battery place
> > > in the back with you, unplug safety switch and join the two wires
> > > together to close the circuit, use jumper leads and connect the black
> > > one to the steel hinge that supports the gate when
> > it's open, this ensures
> > > a good connection.
> > >
> > > Then drill a small hole in the + terminal and run a wire probe from
> there.
> > >
> > > This is all you need, test the wires running to the motor, n
>
- --
Ken Gaines
Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman
Red River Oil & Gas, LLC
(318) 227-4870 Office
(318) 422-5731 Mobile
arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com
http://www.rrog.net
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 16:51:44 -0500
From: Ken Gaines <arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Drove it home
That sounds great! Much appreciated! If this plug isn't for the tailgate
stuff then I don't have any clue what it goes to...and I won't pitch it
because I guarantee I will be sorry later if I do.
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:48 PM, T.Halmshaw <timesawastin-at-bigpond.com> wrote:
> I'm going out to check now Ken, I don't recall any plug there at all,
> if memory serves me the wiring for the tailgate runs under the car,
> comes out behind the rear bumper through a rubber grommet where
> it weathers badly and cracks open.
>
> I will brb with your definite answer, hold on just a few mins mate ok?.
>
> Terry.
>
>
>
> On 8/09/2011 7:43:46 AM, Ken Gaines (arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com) wrote:
> > The 6-pin harness was just laying there loose under the seat, not
> > connected to anything. It looked a LOT like the wiring shown in the
> Ipendia
> > link/site I found showing how to replace the paddle switch with a DPDT
> > switch.
> > I'll have to take a pic of it and post it up later. Basically, the little
> harness I found had 6 wires protruding from a small plug at the other end.
> They were terminated in small loop-end connectors that would have been a
> perfect fit for the paddle switch terminals shown on that site. the whole
> wiring assembly was just laying there. I nearly pitched it but now I am very
> glad I didn't.
> > Isn't one of those wires supposed to be hot all the time? If so, that
> would explain why it had been removed...prevent the hot lead from grounding
> out to the body.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:36 PM, T.Halmshaw <timesawastin-at-bigpond.com[link: mailto:
> timesawastin-at-bigpond.**com <timesawastin-at-bigpond.com>]> wrote:
> > Never seen a 6 pin plug under the rear seat, nothing comes to mind
> > anyway, perhaps someone can shed some light on this, I will check
> > my wrecks today, but I am 99.9% sure there is no plug.
> >
> > That's
> > not to say the harness has not been joined, if so I would put
> > in my serious eyes and have a good look :)
> >
> > Terry.
> >
> > On 8/09/2011 4:
>
>
- --
Ken Gaines
Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman
Red River Oil & Gas, LLC
(318) 227-4870 Office
(318) 422-5731 Mobile
arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com
http://www.rrog.net
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 17:13:50 -0500
From: Ken Gaines <arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Drove it home
Thanks, Terry! So we now have an unknown harness that goes to nowhere.
Hmmmm... I guess I will have to post up a pic of it later to see if anyone
can ID it. It may go to nothing in the GW...could be from another vehicle
and it magically found its way into the back of my GW.
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:01 PM, T.Halmshaw <timesawastin-at-bigpond.com> wrote:
> Ok here's the low down, tailgate wires come from under the dash, run
> along the inside along the carpet edge, then when they get to the B pillar
> they go through a hole there and come out under the car and out again
> at the rear behind the bumper, there's nothing at all under the rear seat.
>
> Now I am checking a completely stripped bare 85 Limited, five wires not
> six, but this does not have a rear wiper like the GW's have.
>
> There is a plug Ken but mate it's under the car behind the beaver panel
> and is a mighty job to get out, but as suspected nothing under the rear
> seat.
>
> Terry.
>
>
> On 8/09/2011 7:51:44 AM, Ken Gaines (arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com) wrote:
> > That sounds great! Much appreciated! If this plug
> > isn't for the tailgate stuff then I don't have any clue what it goes
> to...
> > and I
> > won't pitch it because I guarantee I will be sorry later if I do.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:48 PM, T.Halmshaw <timesawastin-at-bigpond.com[link: mailto:
> timesawastin-at-bigpond.**com <timesawastin-at-bigpond.com>]> wrote:
> > I'm
> > going out to check now Ken, I
> > don't recall any plug there at all,
> > if memory serves me the wiring for the tailgate runs under the car,
> > comes out behind the rear bumper through a rubber grommet where
> > it weathers badly and cracks open.
> >
> > I will brb with your definite answer, hold on just a few mins mate ok?.
> >
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> > On 8/09/2011 7:43:46 AM, Ken Gaines (arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com [link:
> mailto:arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com]) wrote:
> > > The 6-pin harness was just laying there loose under the seat, not
> > > connected to anything. It looked a LOT like the wiring shown in the
> Ipendia
> > > link/site I found showing how to replace the paddle switch with a DPDT
> > > switch.
> > > I'll
> > have to take a pic of it and post it up later. Basically, the little
> > harness I found had 6 wires protruding from a small plug at the other
> end.
> > They were terminated in small loop-end connector
>
>
- --
Ken Gaines
Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman
Red River Oil & Gas, LLC
(318) 227-4870 Office
(318) 422-5731 Mobile
arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com
http://www.rrog.net
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:51:49 -0500
From: Ken Gaines <arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Drove it home
Here's a picture or two of that harness. Let me know what you think.
Ken
On Sep 7, 2011 5:30 PM, "T.Halmshaw" <timesawastin-at-bigpond.com> wrote:
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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 02:38:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: Cascade Loop.... or...
Cascade Loop - or... has anyone seen Rocky and Bullwinkle lately?
Hit a suicidal squirrel near the top of the pass on SR20... he
ran right into my front wheel...
then we hit a couple of deer on SR21 heading out of Grand Coulee on our way
to Spokane... we're ok... airbags didn't go off... drove another 80+ miles
to Spokane with it... necks are sore,
my right foot is bruised from dropping the anchor so hard... there
is deer material on the left side of my jetta, but both disappeared
without leaving any contact information....
We were on a 60mph road through open country, entered a gentle sweeping
left hand turn with a couple side roads coming in, but slowed down to
somewhere between 45 and 55 because of some confusing signs... there
was a large silo on the corner...
as I started exiting the curve two deer jumped out in front...
I was on the anchor hard, had the Jetta coming to
a quick halt, but not quick enough... all I saw was the body of the
deer hitting the left front corner... the chest is what likely hit
the light and hood...
I was too busy downshifting and standing on the binders to notice that
the deer spun around the side of the car and smacked my driver's door as well...
my wife saw the deer head going by the windshield... I thought was I was seeing
dust or smoke to my left... but it was the deer...
the driver's door is creased slightly in the middle, binds when
opening, left fender is mangled, headlight
broken, but the lights still work... sort of... hood and grille are bent
as well, the driver's mirror was moved forward, guess that's where bambi
bounced off the side of my jetta wagon...
I turned around immediately and aimed the remaining headlight out into the field,
went back up to the top of the curve by an intersection, couldn't find
any trace of the deer, didn't have any fluid leaks and we were in the middle
of absolutely no where...
something like 30 miles south of the Grand Coulee Dam and 30 miles
north of Odessa...
we made it ok to Spokane, will get estimates tomorrow from local body
shops and contact the insurance company to see what they'll do... then
I'll likely hit a few wrecking yards here in spokane for a headlight
assembly at least...
Jettas are tough little cars... I've seen much worse damage to other
cars at slower speeds... I haven't looked at the Panzer Plate to see if
it has any deer bits on it... suspect it helped keep the front end from
caving in... saving the radiator/ac and oil cooler...
Haven't tried to open the hood yet... will try that in the morning...
here's a few of the shots of the damage:
http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/JM7_3937_2011-09-07.jpg
http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/JM7_3935_2011-09-07.jpg
http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/JM7_3921_2011-09-07.jpg
http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/JM7_3938_2011-09-07.jpg
our other jetta is at aamco... they found a couple of issues, so hopefully
that one will be good in a day or two... dropped the 300D off at another
shop and hoping it'll be done in a few days too... or I'll be driving my 8mpg J10. :)
we were trying to sell this jetta wagon... we'll see how that plays in peoria now. :)
Otherwise, besides a suicidal squirrel and two hit and run deer... the
final score for the day is JETTA 2 - Wildlife 0.
beautiful drive through the Cascades, only a handful of the 700 pictures I took:
http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/ALL.html
The Cascade Loop can easily be done in a day... two beautiful passes...
john
-----
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-o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all
Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold
http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461
http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us
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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 08:39:13 -0700
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: fsj: RE: Loose u-joint FOILED a 26 hr drive to buy... wrong yoke or ujoint?
I would've pulled the rear driveshaft and drove home in frontwheel drive and
fixed it later. There is a different size ujoint list (2 sizes on the ujoint,
commonly called a conversion joint) Tcase MIGHT need a bearing and seal (not
too big a deal)
Loose u-joint FOILED a 26 hr drive to buy... wrong yoke or ujoint?
Posted by: "Jesse" j2sax-at-yahoo.com J2SAX
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2011 8:08 am ((PDT))
So I drove 13 hours to pick up a J20 4 spd that I was really excited about
and, per the owners description it should have no problem tow dollying my
company car back home. I totally believe him and that he was being honest as
the truck ran GREAT and he has done a lot of work to it.... however....
On my test drive I felt a pretty prominent vibration in the shifter and floor.
Had pretty aggressive tires, but wasn't that... however, the tires probably
masked the problem. So I get back to the driveway and notice LOTS of trans
grease and T/C fluid slung around underneath. The rear driveshaft had all new
ujoints and the axle end was solid but when I grabbed the T/Case end the
driveshaft clunked back and forth... maybe 16th or 8th of an inch.
What was happening is that the yoke on the T/C was too wide to properly
capture the ujoint... you know how it has those little tabs or ears in the
yoke seat that keep the ujoint from moving side to side. So, here are my
theories and maybe you can whittle these down by experience:
1. It is the wrong ujoint. I can't see this as it is the same part number as
the rear one and the fellow even had an extra new joint there that had the
same issue. Also, the difference did not seem large enough to go up another
ujoint size AND the ujoint was just fine in the driveshaft ears
2. Someone "spread" the yoke during a previous service. Since this is the
one that the ujoint simply bolts to, I can't see this... have seen it on the
driveshaft but never on an open receiving yoke
3. Someone replaced the yoke with the one that looked similar but isn't quite
right- my favorite as it fits all requirements and is an easy mistake for
someone shopping a junkyard, though the current owner was not aware of it
4. Any other ideas?
I think the T/C would also need to be rebuilt at this point as this fellow has
been driving short trips on the interstate regularly and the aforementioned
oils tell me this has been taking quite a beating for awhile, though the
ujoint itself still felt great.. probably only need to replace the bearings,
but as long as you're in there...
Your experienced opinion is appreciated... now to continue my empty handed 13
hour drive home... BLAHST!
Regardless, it was great meeting another good FSJ'r who has put a lot of time
and love into his rig! Hope we can work something out... anyone driving West
from SC with an empty trailer?
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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 09:05:25 -0700
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Cascade Loop.... or...
Close call! It's always wise to drive slow close to dusk because that's when
the wildlife come out to play on the road. Maybe Bambi heard you whistling?
Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 02:38:02 -0700
> From: john-at-wagoneers.com
> To:
> Subject: fsj: Cascade Loop.... or...
>
> Cascade Loop - or... has anyone seen Rocky and Bullwinkle lately?
>
> Hit a suicidal squirrel near the top of the pass on SR20... he
> ran right into my front wheel...
>
> then we hit a couple of deer on SR21 heading out of Grand Coulee on our way
> to Spokane... we're ok... airbags didn't go off... drove another 80+ miles
> to Spokane with it... necks are sore,
> my right foot is bruised from dropping the anchor so hard... there
> is deer material on the left side of my jetta, but both disappeared
> without leaving any contact information....
>
> We were on a 60mph road through open country, entered a gentle sweeping
> left hand turn with a couple side roads coming in, but slowed down to
> somewhere between 45 and 55 because of some confusing signs... there
> was a large silo on the corner...
>
> as I started exiting the curve two deer jumped out in front...
> I was on the anchor hard, had the Jetta coming to
> a quick halt, but not quick enough... all I saw was the body of the
> deer hitting the left front corner... the chest is what likely hit
> the light and hood...
>
> I was too busy downshifting and standing on the binders to notice that
> the deer spun around the side of the car and smacked my driver's door as
well...
> my wife saw the deer head going by the windshield... I thought was I was
seeing
> dust or smoke to my left... but it was the deer...
>
> the driver's door is creased slightly in the middle, binds when
> opening, left fender is mangled, headlight
> broken, but the lights still work... sort of... hood and grille are bent
> as well, the driver's mirror was moved forward, guess that's where bambi
> bounced off the side of my jetta wagon...
>
> I turned around immediately and aimed the remaining headlight out into the
field,
> went back up to the top of the curve by an intersection, couldn't find
> any trace of the deer, didn't have any fluid leaks and we were in the middle
> of absolutely no where...
>
> something like 30 miles south of the Grand Coulee Dam and 30 miles
> north of Odessa...
>
> we made it ok to Spokane, will get estimates tomorrow from local body
> shops and contact the insurance company to see what they'll do... then
> I'll likely hit a few wrecking yards here in spokane for a headlight
> assembly at least...
>
> Jettas are tough little cars... I've seen much worse damage to other
> cars at slower speeds... I haven't looked at the Panzer Plate to see if
> it has any deer bits on it... suspect it helped keep the front end from
> caving in... saving the radiator/ac and oil cooler...
>
> Haven't tried to open the hood yet... will try that in the morning...
> here's a few of the shots of the damage:
>
http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/JM7_3937_201
1-09-07.jpg
>
http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/JM7_3935_201
1-09-07.jpg
>
http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/JM7_3921_201
1-09-07.jpg
>
http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/JM7_3938_201
1-09-07.jpg
>
>
> our other jetta is at aamco... they found a couple of issues, so hopefully
> that one will be good in a day or two... dropped the 300D off at another
> shop and hoping it'll be done in a few days too... or I'll be driving my
8mpg J10. :)
>
> we were trying to sell this jetta wagon... we'll see how that plays in
peoria now. :)
>
> Otherwise, besides a suicidal squirrel and two hit and run deer... the
> final score for the day is JETTA 2 - Wildlife 0.
>
> beautiful drive through the Cascades, only a handful of the 700 pictures I
took:
> http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/ALL.html
>
> The Cascade Loop can easily be done in a day... two beautiful passes...
>
> john
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all
> Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold
> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461
> http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:26:41 +0000
From: john <fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Cascade Loop.... or...
Very close indeed. If my reflexes weren't as fast the deer might have landed on the hood instead of being spun around to the driver's side. Glad the jetta has great brakes.
__john_at_http://wagoneers.com__
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 09:05:25
To: john Meister<john-at-wagoneers.com>; xj<xj-at-digest.net>; local Jeep list<fsj-at-digest.net>
Subject: RE: fsj: Cascade Loop.... or...
Close call! It's always wise to drive slow close to dusk because that's when the wildlife come out to play on the road. Maybe Bambi heard you whistling?
Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 02:38:02 -0700
> From: john-at-wagoneers.com
> To:
> Subject: fsj: Cascade Loop.... or...
>
> Cascade Loop - or... has anyone seen Rocky and Bullwinkle lately?
>
> Hit a suicidal squirrel near the top of the pass on SR20... he
> ran right into my front wheel...
>
> then we hit a couple of deer on SR21 heading out of Grand Coulee on our way
> to Spokane... we're ok... airbags didn't go off... drove another 80+ miles
> to Spokane with it... necks are sore,
> my right foot is bruised from dropping the anchor so hard... there
> is deer material on the left side of my jetta, but both disappeared
> without leaving any contact information....
>
> We were on a 60mph road through open country, entered a gentle sweeping
> left hand turn with a couple side roads coming in, but slowed down to
> somewhere between 45 and 55 because of some confusing signs... there
> was a large silo on the corner...
>
> as I started exiting the curve two deer jumped out in front...
> I was on the anchor hard, had the Jetta coming to
> a quick halt, but not quick enough... all I saw was the body of the
> deer hitting the left front corner... the chest is what likely hit
> the light and hood...
>
> I was too busy downshifting and standing on the binders to notice that
> the deer spun around the side of the car and smacked my driver's door as well...
> my wife saw the deer head going by the windshield... I thought was I was seeing
> dust or smoke to my left... but it was the deer...
>
> the driver's door is creased slightly in the middle, binds when
> opening, left fender is mangled, headlight
> broken, but the lights still work... sort of... hood and grille are bent
> as well, the driver's mirror was moved forward, guess that's where bambi
> bounced off the side of my jetta wagon...
>
> I turned around immediately and aimed the remaining headlight out into the field,
> went back up to the top of the curve by an intersection, couldn't find
> any trace of the deer, didn't have any fluid leaks and we were in the middle
> of absolutely no where...
>
> something like 30 miles south of the Grand Coulee Dam and 30 miles
> north of Odessa...
>
> we made it ok to Spokane, will get estimates tomorrow from local body
> shops and contact the insurance company to see what they'll do... then
> I'll likely hit a few wrecking yards here in spokane for a headlight
> assembly at least...
>
> Jettas are tough little cars... I've seen much worse damage to other
> cars at slower speeds... I haven't looked at the Panzer Plate to see if
> it has any deer bits on it... suspect it helped keep the front end from
> caving in... saving the radiator/ac and oil cooler...
>
> Haven't tried to open the hood yet... will try that in the morning...
> here's a few of the shots of the damage:
> http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/JM7_3937_2011-09-07.jpg
> http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/JM7_3935_2011-09-07.jpg
> http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/JM7_3921_2011-09-07.jpg
> http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/JM7_3938_2011-09-07.jpg
>
>
> our other jetta is at aamco... they found a couple of issues, so hopefully
> that one will be good in a day or two... dropped the 300D off at another
> shop and hoping it'll be done in a few days too... or I'll be driving my 8mpg J10. :)
>
> we were trying to sell this jetta wagon... we'll see how that plays in peoria now. :)
>
> Otherwise, besides a suicidal squirrel and two hit and run deer... the
> final score for the day is JETTA 2 - Wildlife 0.
>
> beautiful drive through the Cascades, only a handful of the 700 pictures I took:
> http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-07-CascadeLoop-deer-damage-mac/ALL.html
>
> The Cascade Loop can easily be done in a day... two beautiful passes...
>
> john
>
>
>
>
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