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fsj-digest        Wednesday, November 23 2011        Volume 01 : Number 3821



Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps
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	Re: fsj: I reached 100 Km per hour!!!!
	Re: fsj: I reached 100 Km per hour!!!!
	Re: fsj: I reached 100 Km per hour!!!!
	fsj: Re: tatra

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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:06:02 -0800
From: Michel Balea <michelbalea-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: I reached 100 Km per hour!!!!

Excellent, and you still have oil in the engine! This is why I avoid going
over 120kph or 70mph, it starts to use too much oil and gas.... Time to
check your brakes now.... at the same speed to see if you go straight or
not.... just kidding, start at lower speeds first.

To estimate your speed a GPS is the easiest, otherwise the old method of
time and a known distance travelled using road markers..... Some of our
hiways are so long that they have speedometer check signs. Between Salt
Lake City and Wendover by the Nevada state line around Bonneville flats you
have a good 10 miles to check your speedo.... so send the wagoneer here and
we will be happy to check it for you.

Michel

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Ernesto Silva <erniesilva-at-gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys, today I went to my daughter's school picnic on my 64' wag, about
> 25Km from home.
>
> My wife went later on our 92 Chevette, I had the opportunity to check the
> speed of my wag. When I hit 70Kmph my wife told me she was at 90Kmph.
>
> I am very happy, my estimate is that I can reach 100Kmph for real!!!!
> without killing the engine or getting deaf, but I don't know exactly when,
> my speedometer needle movement is not linear with the engine rpms.
>
> The differential ratio is 4.27 so I guess 100 or 110 Kmph it's a very good
> speed ;)
>
> Ernesto.

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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:37:11 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: I reached 100 Km per hour!!!!

bravo!

what's the tire size?  we can figure out the RPMs.

john


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On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote:

 # Hi guys, today I went to my daughter's school picnic on my 64' wag, about
 # 25Km from home.
 # 
 # My wife went later on our 92 Chevette, I had the opportunity to check the
 # speed of my wag. When I hit 70Kmph my wife told me she was at 90Kmph.
 # 
 # I am very happy, my estimate is that I can reach 100Kmph for real!!!!
 # without killing the engine or getting deaf, but I don't know exactly when,
 # my speedometer needle movement is not linear with the engine rpms.
 # 
 # The differential ratio is 4.27 so I guess 100 or 110 Kmph it's a very good
 # speed ;)
 # 
 # Ernesto.
 # 

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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 02:15:04 -0200
From: Ernesto Silva <erniesilva-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: I reached 100 Km per hour!!!!

JA JA, Michel, if I ever have the money to send the wag back to it's birth
country I'll go there myself and get all the parts that this junky vehicle
needs. In my country there are only a few of them, probably well below 100.


John,
my tires are 75 cm in diameter, so that's about 235cm in circumference. Say
I was at 100.000 mt per hour or 1666.7 mt per minute, divided by 2.35 and
multiplied by 4.27 (dif. ratio) makes 3028 RPMs.

I must have some minor measure error or misconception, I always believed
that the top speed of my engine were 2800rpm because of a limitation on the
oil injection pump, but that may not be true.

I'm trying to find more information on the Internet about the rpms
limitation but can't find anything yet, but I did found mentions to it's
noise, everyone complains about that.

What surprised me was that while I was about 80 Kmph I pressed the
accelerator and I felt the push in my back, well.... not really surprising
with a 4.27 transmission, isn't it?

I still have to measure the oil consumption, When I fill up the tank again
I'll make some numbers, I expect something around 9 or 10 km/l, less than 8
will be very disappointing, more than 11 and I'll be jumping. All this
based on my past experience with this kind of vehicles, not with Jeeps, but
I had 2 pick-ups, Studebakers, one from 1951 (BMC 2.2 litres engine and 5.1
or so dif. ratio) and the other from 1954 (another 4.203 Perkins engine).

Ernesto.


On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Michel Balea <michelbalea-at-gmail.com> wrote:

> Excellent, and you still have oil in the engine! This is why I avoid going
> over 120kph or 70mph, it starts to use too much oil and gas.... Time to
> check your brakes now.... at the same speed to see if you go straight or
> not.... just kidding, start at lower speeds first.
>
> To estimate your speed a GPS is the easiest, otherwise the old method of
> time and a known distance travelled using road markers..... Some of our
> hiways are so long that they have speedometer check signs. Between Salt
> Lake City and Wendover by the Nevada state line around Bonneville flats you
> have a good 10 miles to check your speedo.... so send the wagoneer here and
> we will be happy to check it for you.
>
> Michel
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Ernesto Silva <erniesilva-at-gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi guys, today I went to my daughter's school picnic on my 64' wag, about
>> 25Km from home.
>>
>> My wife went later on our 92 Chevette, I had the opportunity to check the
>> speed of my wag. When I hit 70Kmph my wife told me she was at 90Kmph.
>>
>> I am very happy, my estimate is that I can reach 100Kmph for real!!!!
>> without killing the engine or getting deaf, but I don't know exactly when,
>> my speedometer needle movement is not linear with the engine rpms.
>>
>> The differential ratio is 4.27 so I guess 100 or 110 Kmph it's a very good
>> speed ;)
>>
>> Ernesto.

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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:29:03 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: Re: tatra

730 ft lbs of torque!!!!   :)

would that fit in my J10?  :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_813


hey, it wouldn't need a radiator,right!



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On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Ladislav Bashtarz wrote:

 # john, 
 # 
 # thought you might enjoy these pictures of tatra t813.  8x8 air cooler
 # diesel v12 with individually locking diffs.  my dream 'suv' and i can
 # read all the original documentation in czech, of course.
 # 
 # the company was started in the 1800s in the old country
 # (austria-hungary) by my own grand-grand-uncle very near where I was
 # born.
 # 
 # tatra vehicles tend to place high or win their classes in the
 # Paris-Dakar rally year after year.
 # 
 # also look for t813 and truck trials on youtube.
 # 
 # I bet it would make it up your driveway regardless of weather.  :-)
 # 
 # rgds,
 # 
 # --
 # L
 # 
 # 

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