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Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 01:23:51 +0000
Subject: fsj-digest V1 #3821
fsj-digest Wednesday, November 9 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3821
Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps
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Contents:
Re: fsj: Stepside restoration
fsj: List up to 1,000 auction style items on Ebay Nov 8 for free!
fsj: RE: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
fsj: Re: CJ10A
RE: fsj: Re: CJ10A
RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair (fwd)
fsj: =?utf-8?B?UmVhciBTZWF0IEJlbHRzLi4u?=
RE: fsj: Re: CJ10A
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Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 20:38:48 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Stepside restoration
sure looks familar... :)
http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/SuperDawg/2011_August_7-frame-done-engine-in-bodypainting/ALL.html
got to see it in September and it was in the middle of the shop being prepped for painting...
haven't heard anything since then...
john
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Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Kim Tesar wrote:
# Hi John,
#
# Thought you might like some inspiration. That rust near the spring mounts is
# pretty scary!
# Mine looks squeaky clean by comparison.
#
# http://www.txfsja.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=189
#
# - Landon
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 23:06:55 -0800
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: fsj: List up to 1,000 auction style items on Ebay Nov 8 for free!
http://announcements.ebay.com/2011/11/one-day-only-list-up-to-1000-items-auct
ion-style-for-free-on-november-8/
Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
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Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:35:46 -0700
From: Troy Phagan <tsp-at-crptruck.com>
Subject: fsj: RE: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
My hat's off to you, Terry. That sort of thoughtfulness is much too
rare in the world today! In my opinion, it is that sort of thinking
that we need more of over here in the States, not more government
intervention, as some are calling for. Best of luck to you!
- --
- -Troy
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:49:22 +0000
From: john <fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com>
Subject: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
Yeah, terry's generosity would extend to assisting all of us on jeep projects and providing cool jeep parts at a bargain (as in those bull bars) if air fare and size restrictions weren't a limiting factor. :). He's offered several times to help with superdawg, but we can't find a duffle bag large enough to hold him, or any volunteers to carry said duffle bag on a flight, and we haven't found anyone with extra space in a shipping container to send superdawg there and back either.
But all things considered, putting the two of us into the same shop would result in some pretty wild frankenstein projects considering terry's skills and abilities...
Btw, there are a few tech article how-to's that terry has provided. He is one of those perfectionist, do it right types.
- ------Original Message------
From: Troy Phagan
To: Terryau
To: J
To: FSJ
ReplyTo: tsp-at-crptruck.com
Subject: RE: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
Sent: Nov 8, 2011 08:35
My hat's off to you, Terry. That sort of thoughtfulness is much too
rare in the world today! In my opinion, it is that sort of thinking
that we need more of over here in the States, not more government
intervention, as some are calling for. Best of luck to you!
- --
- -Troy
__john_at_http://wagoneers.com__
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:28 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: Re: CJ10A
Chuck,
the axles will directly bolt up from a GW,
however you'll want to flip the rear springs to move the axle back a bit, and
I'd
use the GW springs in the rear. ;)
the cj-10a is a GW frame, so steering box and mounts are about the same...
for
wiring I used cj-5 and cj-7 info... a dodge np208 will likely have a pass
side drop, won't work
and the spline count will likely be wrong. the TF727 used in the tug is the
RV version, has
an SAE#4 adapater, totally different case and pan than the feeble tf727 used
in the GW. But that
transfer case from the '87 gw will bolt right up... likely it's an np229/228 -
make sure those
hubs are locked in if you use it.. if not you'll blow that selectrac case if
engaged 4wd with the hubs
unlocked...
the tug's life history here:
http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/
best of:
http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/0_best-of-CJ-10A.html
tech info:
http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/CJ-10A-misc/
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-o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all
Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold
http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS
http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, dieseljohn-at-comcast.net wrote:
# From: Chuck holl
# Subject: CJ10A
# Sent: Nov 7, 2011 09:26
#
# John, saw your 10A on your web site. Great project. A few questions if
you have time. Are the axles from an 87 grand wagoneer a Direct bolt in for
the 10A, front and rear. If yes are the steering components a direct bolt
in. Is a NP208 from a dodge a direct bolt in. I only ask as I am currently
in the Chicago, working, and my 10A is in California. If everything is a bolt
in I have a chance to buy a complete 87 grand wagoneer for $300. Thanks for
your help!!! Chuck
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:11:09 -0800
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Re: CJ10A
Dodge NP208 is 23 spline unless from a early Dodge Cummins setup (I was told
29 spline) and it is passenger's side drop which would work with '79 and
earlier FSJ axles. I have one that I bolted into the '76 J10 shortbed with the
304 and Jeep 727 before I decided to part it and fix the Honcho instead. (I
had planned on putting that setup in my '73 J4000 before I rolled it)
The Dodge NP208 is on my for sale list now for $150 (unless I change the
Pumpkin's IH 304 transplant to 727 instead of the BW auto and current remote
tcase.)
Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:28 -0800
> From: john-at-wagoneers.com
> To: fsj-at-digest.net; CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com
> CC: choll40-at-gmail.com
> Subject: fsj: Re: CJ10A
>
> Chuck,
>
> the axles will directly bolt up from a GW,
> however you'll want to flip the rear springs to move the axle back a bit,
and
> I'd
> use the GW springs in the rear. ;)
>
> the cj-10a is a GW frame, so steering box and mounts are about the same...
> for
> wiring I used cj-5 and cj-7 info... a dodge np208 will likely have a pass
> side drop, won't work
> and the spline count will likely be wrong. the TF727 used in the tug is
the
> RV version, has
> an SAE#4 adapater, totally different case and pan than the feeble tf727
used
> in the GW. But that
> transfer case from the '87 gw will bolt right up... likely it's an np229/228
- -
> make sure those
> hubs are locked in if you use it.. if not you'll blow that selectrac case
if
> engaged 4wd with the hubs
> unlocked...
>
>
> the tug's life history here:
> http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/
>
> best of:
> http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/0_best-of-CJ-10A.html
>
> tech info:
> http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/CJ-10A-misc/
>
> -----
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all
> Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold
> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS
> http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, dieseljohn-at-comcast.net wrote:
> # From: Chuck holl
> # Subject: CJ10A
> # Sent: Nov 7, 2011 09:26
> #
> # John, saw your 10A on your web site. Great project. A few questions if
> you have time. Are the axles from an 87 grand wagoneer a Direct bolt in
for
> the 10A, front and rear. If yes are the steering components a direct bolt
> in. Is a NP208 from a dodge a direct bolt in. I only ask as I am
currently
> in the Chicago, working, and my 10A is in California. If everything is a
bolt
> in I have a chance to buy a complete 87 grand wagoneer for $300. Thanks
for
> your help!!! Chuck
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:15:28 -0800
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
Why not pack Terry a box lunch and pack him in the cargo container? ;^)
Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
> Subject: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
> To: tsp-at-crptruck.com; jeeps_r_us-at-bigpond.com; john-at-wagoneers.com;
fsj-at-digest.net
> From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:49:22 +0000
>
> Yeah, terry's generosity would extend to assisting all of us on jeep
projects and providing cool jeep parts at a bargain (as in those bull bars) if
air fare and size restrictions weren't a limiting factor. :). He's offered
several times to help with superdawg, but we can't find a duffle bag large
enough to hold him, or any volunteers to carry said duffle bag on a flight,
and we haven't found anyone with extra space in a shipping container to send
superdawg there and back either.
>
> But all things considered, putting the two of us into the same shop would
result in some pretty wild frankenstein projects considering terry's skills
and abilities...
>
> Btw, there are a few tech article how-to's that terry has provided. He is
one of those perfectionist, do it right types.
>
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Troy Phagan
> To: Terryau
> To: J
> To: FSJ
> ReplyTo: tsp-at-crptruck.com
> Subject: RE: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
> Sent: Nov 8, 2011 08:35
>
> My hat's off to you, Terry. That sort of thoughtfulness is much too
> rare in the world today! In my opinion, it is that sort of thinking
> that we need more of over here in the States, not more government
> intervention, as some are calling for. Best of luck to you!
>
> --
> -Troy
>
>
>
>
> __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:11:43 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
yeah, with a small space heater... ;)
I think a propane heater would work, or maybe a couple of cans of sterno... :)
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-o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all
Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold
http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS
http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Jim Blair wrote:
#
# Why not pack Terry a box lunch and pack him in the cargo container? ;^)
#
# Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
#
#
# > Subject: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
# > To: tsp-at-crptruck.com; jeeps_r_us-at-bigpond.com; john-at-wagoneers.com; fsj-at-digest.net
# > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com
# > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:49:22 +0000
# >
# > Yeah, terry's generosity would extend to assisting all of us on jeep projects and providing cool jeep parts at a bargain (as in those bull bars) if air fare and size restrictions weren't a limiting factor. :). He's offered several times to help with superdawg, but we can't find a duffle bag large enough to hold him, or any volunteers to carry said duffle bag on a flight, and we haven't found anyone with extra space in a shipping container to send superdawg there and back either.
# >
# > But all things considered, putting the two of us into the same shop would result in some pretty wild frankenstein projects considering terry's skills and abilities...
# >
# > Btw, there are a few tech article how-to's that terry has provided. He is one of those perfectionist, do it right types.
# >
# >
# > ------Original Message------
# > From: Troy Phagan
# > To: Terryau
# > To: J
# > To: FSJ
# > ReplyTo: tsp-at-crptruck.com
# > Subject: RE: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
# > Sent: Nov 8, 2011 08:35
# >
# > My hat's off to you, Terry. That sort of thoughtfulness is much too
# > rare in the world today! In my opinion, it is that sort of thinking
# > that we need more of over here in the States, not more government
# > intervention, as some are calling for. Best of luck to you!
# >
# > --
# > -Troy
# >
# >
# >
# >
# > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__
#
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:13:10 -0800
From: Jim Blair <carnuck1-at-msn.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
So he can cook any rats that sneak in? Better have some Chocolate to entice
them! (It works WAAAAY better than cheese)
Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will
like them only Entangle and hold the poor and
weak, while the rich and powerful will easily
break through them
ANACHARSIS Scythian philosopher (fl. 600 BC)
> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:11:43 -0800
> From: john-at-wagoneers.com
> To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com
> CC: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com; tsp-at-crptruck.com; jeeps_r_us-at-bigpond.com;
fsj-at-digest.net
> Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
>
> yeah, with a small space heater... ;)
>
> I think a propane heater would work, or maybe a couple of cans of sterno...
:)
>
> -----
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all
> Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold
> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS
> http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Jim Blair wrote:
>
> #
> # Why not pack Terry a box lunch and pack him in the cargo container? ;^)
> #
> # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
> #
> #
> # > Subject: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
> # > To: tsp-at-crptruck.com; jeeps_r_us-at-bigpond.com; john-at-wagoneers.com;
fsj-at-digest.net
> # > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com
> # > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:49:22 +0000
> # >
> # > Yeah, terry's generosity would extend to assisting all of us on jeep
projects and providing cool jeep parts at a bargain (as in those bull bars) if
air fare and size restrictions weren't a limiting factor. :). He's offered
several times to help with superdawg, but we can't find a duffle bag large
enough to hold him, or any volunteers to carry said duffle bag on a flight,
and we haven't found anyone with extra space in a shipping container to send
superdawg there and back either.
> # >
> # > But all things considered, putting the two of us into the same shop
would result in some pretty wild frankenstein projects considering terry's
skills and abilities...
> # >
> # > Btw, there are a few tech article how-to's that terry has provided. He
is one of those perfectionist, do it right types.
> # >
> # >
> # > ------Original Message------
> # > From: Troy Phagan
> # > To: Terryau
> # > To: J
> # > To: FSJ
> # > ReplyTo: tsp-at-crptruck.com
> # > Subject: RE: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
> # > Sent: Nov 8, 2011 08:35
> # >
> # > My hat's off to you, Terry. That sort of thoughtfulness is much too
> # > rare in the world today! In my opinion, it is that sort of thinking
> # > that we need more of over here in the States, not more government
> # > intervention, as some are calling for. Best of luck to you!
> # >
> # > --
> # > -Troy
> # >
> # >
> # >
> # >
> # > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__
> #
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:22:41 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
no, peanut butter works too... ;)
and while we're way off topic, my cat loves cheerios... he will stand up
on his hind legs and dance for one... whazzup with that?
john
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-o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all
Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold
http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS
http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Jim Blair wrote:
#
# So he can cook any rats that sneak in? Better have some Chocolate to entice them! (It works WAAAAY better than cheese)
#
# Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will
# like them only Entangle and hold the poor and
# weak, while the rich and powerful will easily
# break through them
#
# ANACHARSIS Scythian philosopher (fl. 600 BC)
#
# > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:11:43 -0800
# > From: john-at-wagoneers.com
# > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com
# > CC: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com; tsp-at-crptruck.com; jeeps_r_us-at-bigpond.com; fsj-at-digest.net
# > Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
# >
# > yeah, with a small space heater... ;)
# >
# > I think a propane heater would work, or maybe a couple of cans of sterno... :)
# >
# > -----
# > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
# > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all
# > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold
# > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS
# > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us
# > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
# >
# >
# > On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Jim Blair wrote:
# >
# > #
# > # Why not pack Terry a box lunch and pack him in the cargo container? ;^)
# > #
# > # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
# > #
# > #
# > # > Subject: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
# > # > To: tsp-at-crptruck.com; jeeps_r_us-at-bigpond.com; john-at-wagoneers.com; fsj-at-digest.net
# > # > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com
# > # > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:49:22 +0000
# > # >
# > # > Yeah, terry's generosity would extend to assisting all of us on jeep projects and providing cool jeep parts at a bargain (as in those bull bars) if air fare and size restrictions weren't a limiting factor. :). He's offered several times to help with superdawg, but we can't find a duffle bag large enough to hold him, or any volunteers to carry said duffle bag on a flight, and we haven't found anyone with extra space in a shipping container to send superdawg there and back either.
# > # >
# > # > But all things considered, putting the two of us into the same shop would result in some pretty wild frankenstein projects considering terry's skills and abilities...
# > # >
# > # > Btw, there are a few tech article how-to's that terry has provided. He is one of those perfectionist, do it right types.
# > # >
# > # >
# > # > ------Original Message------
# > # > From: Troy Phagan
# > # > To: Terryau
# > # > To: J
# > # > To: FSJ
# > # > ReplyTo: tsp-at-crptruck.com
# > # > Subject: RE: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
# > # > Sent: Nov 8, 2011 08:35
# > # >
# > # > My hat's off to you, Terry. That sort of thoughtfulness is much too
# > # > rare in the world today! In my opinion, it is that sort of thinking
# > # > that we need more of over here in the States, not more government
# > # > intervention, as some are calling for. Best of luck to you!
# > # >
# > # > --
# > # > -Troy
# > # >
# > # >
# > # >
# > # >
# > # > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__
# > #
#
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:36:47 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair (fwd)
:)
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-o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all
Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold
http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS
http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: T.Halmshaw <jeeps_r_us-at-bigpond.com>
To: john-at-wagoneers.com
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 10:31:17 +1100
Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Mitsubishi Star wagon repair
OMG! that's too funny, Chris and I have tears in our eyes and my
ribs hurt. ............nestled in bullbars LMAO!.
On 9/11/2011 10:25:18 AM, john (john-at-wagoneers.com) wrote:
I can just imagine the headlines now...
aussie creates international incident on airline when plane was diverted to
chile because of fire in the cargo bay... the smiling aussie was nestled
in a bunch of bull bars and enjoying freshly cooked alligator
and kangaroo... he offered some to the flight crew before airport security
handcuffed him and took him away... the bull bars were confiscated by
airport security and put in the back of their jeeps...
>
>
> -----
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen
> y'all
> Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they
> mold
> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS
> http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Nov 2011, T.Halmshaw wrote:
>
> # Propane??? Hmmm would you like fries with your extra crispy Terry?.
> #
> # On 9/11/2011 10:11:43 AM, john (john-at-wagoneers.com) wrote:
> # > yeah, with a small space heater... ;)
> # >
> # > I think a propane heater would work, or maybe a couple of cans of
> sterno...
> # > :)
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:51:39 -0500
From: "=?utf-8?B?a2RuMDQwNUBhb2wuY29t?=" <kdn0405-at-aol.com>
Subject: fsj: =?utf-8?B?UmVhciBTZWF0IEJlbHRzLi4u?=
Gents -
Almost have the 75 Waggy up and running, but I need to get seatbelts re-installed so the kiddies can rid too. The previous owner removed the ones in the back seat. Does alone have a set they'd like to get rid of, or have a lead I may follow?
Thanks
K-
Sent from my HTC Inspireb^D" 4G on AT&T
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:23:39 -0800
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Re: CJ10A
You would want an '80 up Ford or J10 T18 output shaft and adapter sleeve to
run a Dodge (or Chev with fixed yoke and shifter fork upgrades) NP208, but you
would need to swap in a Ford 31 spline input gear. (haven't done it, but I
have been studying it as well as some other Nissan diesel options. Someone
beat me to the LD28 I was going to buy 8^( )
Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
> From: r16884-at-freescale.com
> To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; john-at-wagoneers.com; fsj-at-digest.net
> CC: choll40-at-gmail.com
> Subject: RE: fsj: Re: CJ10A
> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 22:51:19 +0000
>
> Jim, is this the 208 that goes behind a T18? What adapter is needed to a
T18 that is currently in front of a Dana20 on 79 J10 ? (reverse TX bolt
pattern)
>
> - Landon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Blair
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 4:11 PM
> To: john Meister; local Jeep list
> Cc: choll40-at-gmail.com
> Subject: RE: fsj: Re: CJ10A
>
> Dodge NP208 is 23 spline unless from a early Dodge Cummins setup (I was
told
> 29 spline) and it is passenger's side drop which would work with '79 and
earlier FSJ axles. I have one that I bolted into the '76 J10 shortbed with
the
> 304 and Jeep 727 before I decided to part it and fix the Honcho instead. (I
had planned on putting that setup in my '73 J4000 before I rolled it)
>
> The Dodge NP208 is on my for sale list now for $150 (unless I change the
Pumpkin's IH 304 transplant to 727 instead of the BW auto and current remote
> tcase.)
>
> Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:28 -0800
> > From: john-at-wagoneers.com
> > To: fsj-at-digest.net; CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com
> > CC: choll40-at-gmail.com
> > Subject: fsj: Re: CJ10A
> >
> > Chuck,
> >
> > the axles will directly bolt up from a GW, however you'll want to flip
> > the rear springs to move the axle back a bit,
> and
> > I'd
> > use the GW springs in the rear. ;)
> >
> > the cj-10a is a GW frame, so steering box and mounts are about the
same...
> > for
> > wiring I used cj-5 and cj-7 info... a dodge np208 will likely have a
> > pass side drop, won't work and the spline count will likely be wrong.
> > the TF727 used in the tug is
> the
> > RV version, has
> > an SAE#4 adapater, totally different case and pan than the feeble
> > tf727
> used
> > in the GW. But that
> > transfer case from the '87 gw will bolt right up... likely it's an
> > np229/228
> -
> > make sure those
> > hubs are locked in if you use it.. if not you'll blow that selectrac
> > case
> if
> > engaged 4wd with the hubs
> > unlocked...
> >
> >
> > the tug's life history here:
> > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/
> >
> > best of:
> > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/0_best-of-CJ-10A.html
> >
> > tech info:
> > http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/CJ-10A-misc/
> >
> > -----
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all
> > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold
> > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS
> > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, dieseljohn-at-comcast.net wrote:
> > # From: Chuck holl
> > # Subject: CJ10A
> > # Sent: Nov 7, 2011 09:26
> > #
> > # John, saw your 10A on your web site. Great project. A few questions
if
> > you have time. Are the axles from an 87 grand wagoneer a Direct bolt in
> for
> > the 10A, front and rear. If yes are the steering components a direct
bolt
> > in. Is a NP208 from a dodge a direct bolt in. I only ask as I am
> currently
> > in the Chicago, working, and my 10A is in California. If everything
> > is a
> bolt
> > in I have a chance to buy a complete 87 grand wagoneer for $300. Thanks
> for
> > your help!!! Chuck
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