From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Mar 5 08:30:00 2012 From: fsj-digest To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 16:30:16 +0000 Subject: fsj-digest V1 #3873 fsj-digest Monday, March 5 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3873 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: Tf727 Re: fsj: Tf727 Re: fsj: Tf727 Re: fsj: Tf727 Re: fsj: Tf727 FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:59:15 -0600 From: Ken Gaines Subject: Re: fsj: Tf727 It isn't that hard at all. You have to pull the pan for one of them but the other adjustment is outside of the transmission housing. Loosen the jam nut, tighten down to snug (I am sure there is a torque value for this) then back off the adjustment screw about 1/4 turn. Tighten the jam nut. Done. I am sure someone else will post up more concise instructions. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:55 AM, john wrote: > How hard is it to adjust the bands? But, I've got a great trans shop that > could install a shift kit and put in amsoil atf for a very reasonable > charge. I'll give them a call. They rebuilt that rv/big block version of > the 727 for superdawg, and shift kitted the tug. > > I'm not sure if jim's stp trick is going to do much, played with that > stuff in the 60's and early 70's, it pretty much sits on the bottom of the > pan. :). I'll ask them about it at dave's transmission in lynnwood, if it > does work they'd know about. Dave sr has had that shop since 64! Great > family run business. > > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tesar Landon-R16884 > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:16:38 > To: john > Subject: RE: another one bites the dust... fleet reduction... tool boxes > for > sale > > John, > > You might check the upper/lower bands adjustment on the TF727...high gears > and an automatic, and a lot of weight...not a good combo. > > - Landon > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:16 PM > Subject: xj: another one bites the dust... fleet reduction... tool boxes > for sale > > sold the '02 Jetta sedan this evening... I just feel better about keeping > the '87 300D... so I'm going to spend some money to finish making it > perfect... > > 300D: > the 300D has been averaging 25 mpg in town... > will be taking the 300D into the dealer for the rear bushing, timing/oil > pump chains... don't want to kill another 124... one was enough. > > J10: > wondering if a shift kit would help a tired TF727 in my '83 J10, thoughts? > Superdawg: > of course all this may be a mute point, curtis is actually making > progress... > if he shoots it all one color then all that's left is the assembly, that > could easily be done in a week... > > TOOLBOXES FOR SALE: > clearing some floor space in my shop so I can get the 300D and the jetta > wagon in at night... although I suspect the jetta will be out when > superdawg comes home... > so, selling off a couple of shop items, two rolling tool boxes, solvent > tank... > I may even get rid of my big workbench... the one toolbox is a Husky, 13 > drawer, the top two rows have 4 drawers... the other is a 5 drawer > Crafstman work cart. > the solvent tank is the $129 harbor fright kind... comes with lightly used > commercial solvent... will not ship . > > picked up a nice used craftsman 15 drawer to replace my two rollarounds... > turns out the guy is also from the chicago area and was classmates with > michele obama... :) small world... he was in the 3rd grade with her... > she was controversial even then it seems... :) > > john > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > vehicle city/hwy engine/trans/xfr > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 2002 VW Jetta TDI Wagon GLS 30/45 mpg 1.9L TDI/AT > 1987 Mercedes 300D (124) 25/38 mpg 3.0L Turbo Diesel/AT > 1983 Jeep J10 long box (SJ) 11/15 mpg 5.9L AT/NP208 (best mpg 17.68) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1983 Jeep J10 Stepside (SJ) (Superdawg)- under construction since 1999 > getting SD33T Diesel, TF727/NP208 mpg: 20/24 expected > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -o|||||o- http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - -- Ken Gaines Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman Arklatex Geographics, LLC (318) 422-5731 Mobile arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com http://www.arklatexgeo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:59:58 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Tf727 Got a how to? I can validate your step by step and add pictures and put it on wagoneers.com. __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ - -----Original Message----- From: Scotiapilot Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:58:00 To: john Cc: Tesar Landon-R16884; FSJ Subject: Re: fsj: Tf727 It is easy to adjust bands. I have found the BM shift kit works very well with them. Dont forget to adjust pump pressure On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:55 AM, john wrote: > How hard is it to adjust the bands? But, I've got a great trans shop that > could install a shift kit and put in amsoil atf for a very reasonable > charge. I'll give them a call. They rebuilt that rv/big block version of > the 727 for superdawg, and shift kitted the tug. > > I'm not sure if jim's stp trick is going to do much, played with that > stuff in the 60's and early 70's, it pretty much sits on the bottom of the > pan. :). I'll ask them about it at dave's transmission in lynnwood, if it > does work they'd know about. Dave sr has had that shop since 64! Great > family run business. > > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tesar Landon-R16884 > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:16:38 > To: john > Subject: RE: another one bites the dust... fleet reduction... tool boxes > for > sale > > John, > > You might check the upper/lower bands adjustment on the TF727...high gears > and an automatic, and a lot of weight...not a good combo. > > - Landon > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:16 PM > Subject: xj: another one bites the dust... fleet reduction... tool boxes > for sale > > sold the '02 Jetta sedan this evening... I just feel better about keeping > the '87 300D... so I'm going to spend some money to finish making it > perfect... > > 300D: > the 300D has been averaging 25 mpg in town... > will be taking the 300D into the dealer for the rear bushing, timing/oil > pump chains... don't want to kill another 124... one was enough. > > J10: > wondering if a shift kit would help a tired TF727 in my '83 J10, thoughts? > Superdawg: > of course all this may be a mute point, curtis is actually making > progress... > if he shoots it all one color then all that's left is the assembly, that > could easily be done in a week... > > TOOLBOXES FOR SALE: > clearing some floor space in my shop so I can get the 300D and the jetta > wagon in at night... although I suspect the jetta will be out when > superdawg comes home... > so, selling off a couple of shop items, two rolling tool boxes, solvent > tank... > I may even get rid of my big workbench... the one toolbox is a Husky, 13 > drawer, the top two rows have 4 drawers... the other is a 5 drawer > Crafstman work cart. > the solvent tank is the $129 harbor fright kind... comes with lightly used > commercial solvent... will not ship . > > picked up a nice used craftsman 15 drawer to replace my two rollarounds... > turns out the guy is also from the chicago area and was classmates with > michele obama... :) small world... he was in the 3rd grade with her... > she was controversial even then it seems... :) > > john > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > vehicle city/hwy engine/trans/xfr > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 2002 VW Jetta TDI Wagon GLS 30/45 mpg 1.9L TDI/AT > 1987 Mercedes 300D (124) 25/38 mpg 3.0L Turbo Diesel/AT > 1983 Jeep J10 long box (SJ) 11/15 mpg 5.9L AT/NP208 (best mpg 17.68) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1983 Jeep J10 Stepside (SJ) (Superdawg)- under construction since 1999 > getting SD33T Diesel, TF727/NP208 mpg: 20/24 expected > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -o|||||o- http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - -- "Item, qe nul soit si hardy de crier havok sur peine davoir la test coupe." Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war; That this foul deed shall smell above the earth With carrion men, groaning for burial. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 16:01:01 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Tf727 We don't want concise, we want verbose, details, 8x10 color glossies, the dummies guide. :) __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ - -----Original Message----- From: Ken Gaines Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:59:15 To: john; fsgdigestlast last Subject: Re: fsj: Tf727 It isn't that hard at all. You have to pull the pan for one of them but the other adjustment is outside of the transmission housing. Loosen the jam nut, tighten down to snug (I am sure there is a torque value for this) then back off the adjustment screw about 1/4 turn. Tighten the jam nut. Done. I am sure someone else will post up more concise instructions. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:55 AM, john wrote: > How hard is it to adjust the bands? But, I've got a great trans shop that > could install a shift kit and put in amsoil atf for a very reasonable > charge. I'll give them a call. They rebuilt that rv/big block version of > the 727 for superdawg, and shift kitted the tug. > > I'm not sure if jim's stp trick is going to do much, played with that > stuff in the 60's and early 70's, it pretty much sits on the bottom of the > pan. :). I'll ask them about it at dave's transmission in lynnwood, if it > does work they'd know about. Dave sr has had that shop since 64! Great > family run business. > > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tesar Landon-R16884 > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:16:38 > To: john > Subject: RE: another one bites the dust... fleet reduction... tool boxes > for > sale > > John, > > You might check the upper/lower bands adjustment on the TF727...high gears > and an automatic, and a lot of weight...not a good combo. > > - Landon > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:16 PM > Subject: xj: another one bites the dust... fleet reduction... tool boxes > for sale > > sold the '02 Jetta sedan this evening... I just feel better about keeping > the '87 300D... so I'm going to spend some money to finish making it > perfect... > > 300D: > the 300D has been averaging 25 mpg in town... > will be taking the 300D into the dealer for the rear bushing, timing/oil > pump chains... don't want to kill another 124... one was enough. > > J10: > wondering if a shift kit would help a tired TF727 in my '83 J10, thoughts? > Superdawg: > of course all this may be a mute point, curtis is actually making > progress... > if he shoots it all one color then all that's left is the assembly, that > could easily be done in a week... > > TOOLBOXES FOR SALE: > clearing some floor space in my shop so I can get the 300D and the jetta > wagon in at night... although I suspect the jetta will be out when > superdawg comes home... > so, selling off a couple of shop items, two rolling tool boxes, solvent > tank... > I may even get rid of my big workbench... the one toolbox is a Husky, 13 > drawer, the top two rows have 4 drawers... the other is a 5 drawer > Crafstman work cart. > the solvent tank is the $129 harbor fright kind... comes with lightly used > commercial solvent... will not ship . > > picked up a nice used craftsman 15 drawer to replace my two rollarounds... > turns out the guy is also from the chicago area and was classmates with > michele obama... :) small world... he was in the 3rd grade with her... > she was controversial even then it seems... :) > > john > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > vehicle city/hwy engine/trans/xfr > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 2002 VW Jetta TDI Wagon GLS 30/45 mpg 1.9L TDI/AT > 1987 Mercedes 300D (124) 25/38 mpg 3.0L Turbo Diesel/AT > 1983 Jeep J10 long box (SJ) 11/15 mpg 5.9L AT/NP208 (best mpg 17.68) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1983 Jeep J10 Stepside (SJ) (Superdawg)- under construction since 1999 > getting SD33T Diesel, TF727/NP208 mpg: 20/24 expected > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -o|||||o- http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - -- Ken Gaines Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman Arklatex Geographics, LLC (318) 422-5731 Mobile arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com http://www.arklatexgeo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:15:23 -0600 From: Ken Gaines Subject: Re: fsj: Tf727 I don't have any pics on here at work. I may have some in some old posts on the JU forum. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM, john wrote: > ** > We don't want concise, we want verbose, details, 8x10 color glossies, the > dummies guide. :) > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ > ------------------------------ > *From: * Ken Gaines > *Date: *Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:59:15 -0600 > *To: *john; fsgdigestlast last< > fsj-digest-at-digest.net> > *Subject: *Re: fsj: Tf727 > > It isn't that hard at all. You have to pull the pan for one of them but > the other adjustment is outside of the transmission housing. Loosen the jam > nut, tighten down to snug (I am sure there is a torque value for this) then > back off the adjustment screw about 1/4 turn. Tighten the jam nut. Done. > I am sure someone else will post up more concise instructions. > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:55 AM, john wrote: > >> How hard is it to adjust the bands? But, I've got a great trans shop >> that could install a shift kit and put in amsoil atf for a very reasonable >> charge. I'll give them a call. They rebuilt that rv/big block version of >> the 727 for superdawg, and shift kitted the tug. >> >> I'm not sure if jim's stp trick is going to do much, played with that >> stuff in the 60's and early 70's, it pretty much sits on the bottom of the >> pan. :). I'll ask them about it at dave's transmission in lynnwood, if it >> does work they'd know about. Dave sr has had that shop since 64! Great >> family run business. >> >> >> __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tesar Landon-R16884 >> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:16:38 >> To: john >> Subject: RE: another one bites the dust... fleet reduction... tool boxes >> for >> sale >> >> John, >> >> You might check the upper/lower bands adjustment on the TF727...high >> gears and an automatic, and a lot of weight...not a good combo. >> >> - Landon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:16 PM >> Subject: xj: another one bites the dust... fleet reduction... tool boxes >> for sale >> >> sold the '02 Jetta sedan this evening... I just feel better about keeping >> the '87 300D... so I'm going to spend some money to finish making it >> perfect... >> >> 300D: >> the 300D has been averaging 25 mpg in town... >> will be taking the 300D into the dealer for the rear bushing, timing/oil >> pump chains... don't want to kill another 124... one was enough. >> >> J10: >> wondering if a shift kit would help a tired TF727 in my '83 J10, thoughts? >> Superdawg: >> of course all this may be a mute point, curtis is actually making >> progress... >> if he shoots it all one color then all that's left is the assembly, that >> could easily be done in a week... >> >> TOOLBOXES FOR SALE: >> clearing some floor space in my shop so I can get the 300D and the jetta >> wagon in at night... although I suspect the jetta will be out when >> superdawg comes home... >> so, selling off a couple of shop items, two rolling tool boxes, solvent >> tank... >> I may even get rid of my big workbench... the one toolbox is a Husky, 13 >> drawer, the top two rows have 4 drawers... the other is a 5 drawer >> Crafstman work cart. >> the solvent tank is the $129 harbor fright kind... comes with lightly >> used commercial solvent... will not ship . >> >> picked up a nice used craftsman 15 drawer to replace my two rollarounds... >> turns out the guy is also from the chicago area and was classmates with >> michele obama... :) small world... he was in the 3rd grade with her... >> she was controversial even then it seems... :) >> >> john >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -o|||||o- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> vehicle city/hwy engine/trans/xfr >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> 2002 VW Jetta TDI Wagon GLS 30/45 mpg 1.9L TDI/AT >> 1987 Mercedes 300D (124) 25/38 mpg 3.0L Turbo Diesel/AT >> 1983 Jeep J10 long box (SJ) 11/15 mpg 5.9L AT/NP208 (best mpg 17.68) >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> 1983 Jeep J10 Stepside (SJ) (Superdawg)- under construction since 1999 >> getting SD33T Diesel, TF727/NP208 mpg: 20/24 expected >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -o|||||o- http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum >> http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > > > -- > Ken Gaines > Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman > Arklatex Geographics, LLC > (318) 422-5731 Mobile > arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com > http://www.arklatexgeo.com > > - -- Ken Gaines Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman Arklatex Geographics, LLC (318) 422-5731 Mobile arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com http://www.arklatexgeo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 16:30:01 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Tf727 I can do the pix, just need the how to. :) __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ - -----Original Message----- From: Ken Gaines Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:15:23 To: ; Subject: Re: fsj: Tf727 I don't have any pics on here at work. I may have some in some old posts on the JU forum. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM, john wrote: > ** > We don't want concise, we want verbose, details, 8x10 color glossies, the > dummies guide. :) > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ > ------------------------------ > *From: * Ken Gaines > *Date: *Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:59:15 -0600 > *To: *john; fsgdigestlast last< > fsj-digest-at-digest.net> > *Subject: *Re: fsj: Tf727 > > It isn't that hard at all. You have to pull the pan for one of them but > the other adjustment is outside of the transmission housing. Loosen the jam > nut, tighten down to snug (I am sure there is a torque value for this) then > back off the adjustment screw about 1/4 turn. Tighten the jam nut. Done. > I am sure someone else will post up more concise instructions. > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:55 AM, john wrote: > >> How hard is it to adjust the bands? But, I've got a great trans shop >> that could install a shift kit and put in amsoil atf for a very reasonable >> charge. I'll give them a call. They rebuilt that rv/big block version of >> the 727 for superdawg, and shift kitted the tug. >> >> I'm not sure if jim's stp trick is going to do much, played with that >> stuff in the 60's and early 70's, it pretty much sits on the bottom of the >> pan. :). I'll ask them about it at dave's transmission in lynnwood, if it >> does work they'd know about. Dave sr has had that shop since 64! Great >> family run business. >> >> >> __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tesar Landon-R16884 >> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:16:38 >> To: john >> Subject: RE: another one bites the dust... fleet reduction... tool boxes >> for >> sale >> >> John, >> >> You might check the upper/lower bands adjustment on the TF727...high >> gears and an automatic, and a lot of weight...not a good combo. >> >> - Landon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:16 PM >> Subject: xj: another one bites the dust... fleet reduction... tool boxes >> for sale >> >> sold the '02 Jetta sedan this evening... I just feel better about keeping >> the '87 300D... so I'm going to spend some money to finish making it >> perfect... >> >> 300D: >> the 300D has been averaging 25 mpg in town... >> will be taking the 300D into the dealer for the rear bushing, timing/oil >> pump chains... don't want to kill another 124... one was enough. >> >> J10: >> wondering if a shift kit would help a tired TF727 in my '83 J10, thoughts? >> Superdawg: >> of course all this may be a mute point, curtis is actually making >> progress... >> if he shoots it all one color then all that's left is the assembly, that >> could easily be done in a week... >> >> TOOLBOXES FOR SALE: >> clearing some floor space in my shop so I can get the 300D and the jetta >> wagon in at night... although I suspect the jetta will be out when >> superdawg comes home... >> so, selling off a couple of shop items, two rolling tool boxes, solvent >> tank... >> I may even get rid of my big workbench... the one toolbox is a Husky, 13 >> drawer, the top two rows have 4 drawers... the other is a 5 drawer >> Crafstman work cart. >> the solvent tank is the $129 harbor fright kind... comes with lightly >> used commercial solvent... will not ship . >> >> picked up a nice used craftsman 15 drawer to replace my two rollarounds... >> turns out the guy is also from the chicago area and was classmates with >> michele obama... :) small world... he was in the 3rd grade with her... >> she was controversial even then it seems... :) >> >> john >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -o|||||o- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> vehicle city/hwy engine/trans/xfr >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> 2002 VW Jetta TDI Wagon GLS 30/45 mpg 1.9L TDI/AT >> 1987 Mercedes 300D (124) 25/38 mpg 3.0L Turbo Diesel/AT >> 1983 Jeep J10 long box (SJ) 11/15 mpg 5.9L AT/NP208 (best mpg 17.68) >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> 1983 Jeep J10 Stepside (SJ) (Superdawg)- under construction since 1999 >> getting SD33T Diesel, TF727/NP208 mpg: 20/24 expected >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -o|||||o- http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum >> http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > > > -- > Ken Gaines > Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman > Arklatex Geographics, LLC > (318) 422-5731 Mobile > arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com > http://www.arklatexgeo.com > > - -- Ken Gaines Sr. GIS Analyst/Petroleum Landman Arklatex Geographics, LLC (318) 422-5731 Mobile arklatexgeo-at-gmail.com http://www.arklatexgeo.com ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3873 **************************