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fsj-digest Monday, June 18 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3936
Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps
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Contents:
fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
RE: fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
Re: fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
RE: fsj: Ernesto's Starter issue
Re: xj: RE: fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
Re: fsj: Ernesto's Starter issue
fsj: Article: Charting U.S.-Market Diesel Take Rates, Prices, MPG, and More - Feature (fwd)
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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:38:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
alumaseal
this kept a gm v6 running for a year longer... this is NOT a fix, it's a patch for
old tired vehicles, or if you have a radiator puncture...
also, if you're really stuck with a hole in your radiator you can try to use peppercorns,
or pinch off the row(s) in a radiator.
in this case bruce has a basket case engine that he will replace with a Diesel engine,
he's just driving the car until he has time to sort out all the tech details... so
this engine WILL NOT BE used again... by him... :)
john
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-o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS
Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold
buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
"A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education"
Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919)
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2012, Bruce Caruthers wrote:
# Hey John.
#
# What was it you suggested for the coolant leaking on the M104 motor in my R129? The oil is getting into the coolant, and it leaks from one corner of the motor until it warms up enough.
#
# Thanks!
# -bkc
#
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:53:47 -0700
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
That is the VW VR6 engine. It needs the heads retightened I think. That's a
better question for the VWvortex group.
Hide2.8 L M104.900
Mercedes needed an compact 6 cylinder for their vans and asked VW if they
could use the VR6 Golf/Jetta engine. An agreement was reached and the engines
were sold semi completed to MB. Basically only the engine cover and aircleaner
housing is by MB. Refer to VW VR6
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M104_engine#section_1
> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:38:39 -0700
> From: john-at-wagoneers.com
> To: bkc-reply-at-DreamFire.com
> CC: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com;
CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com; diesel-benz-at-digest.net
> Subject: fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
>
> alumaseal
>
> this kept a gm v6 running for a year longer... this is NOT a fix, it's a
patch for
> old tired vehicles, or if you have a radiator puncture...
>
> also, if you're really stuck with a hole in your radiator you can try to use
peppercorns,
> or pinch off the row(s) in a radiator.
>
> in this case bruce has a basket case engine that he will replace with a
Diesel engine,
> he's just driving the car until he has time to sort out all the tech
details... so
> this engine WILL NOT BE used again... by him... :)
>
> john
>
>
> -----
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS
> Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold
> buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education"
> Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012, Bruce Caruthers wrote:
>
> # Hey John.
> #
> # What was it you suggested for the coolant leaking on the M104 motor in my
R129? The oil is getting into the coolant, and it leaks from one corner of
the motor until it warms up enough.
> #
> # Thanks!
> # -bkc
> #
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:56:55 +0000
From: john <fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
Long story jim, will tell you all about it when you come for the bench. But, no. It's an aging gas engine in a benz with a coolant leak in the head gasket going into the valve train, not the combustion chamber. :)
Btw, bench isn't ready yet, will have my son help me get it outside later today maybe.
__john_at_http://wagoneers.com__
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:53:47
To: <john-at-wagoneers.com>; <bkc-reply-at-dreamfire.com>
Cc: <fsj-at-digest.net>; <xj-at-digest.net>; <cj-10list-at-yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
That is the VW VR6 engine. It needs the heads retightened I think. That's a better question for the VWvortex group.
Hide2.8 L M104.900
Mercedes needed an compact 6 cylinder for their vans and asked VW if they could use the VR6 Golf/Jetta engine. An agreement was reached and the engines were sold semi completed to MB. Basically only the engine cover and aircleaner housing is by MB. Refer to VW VR6
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M104_engine#section_1
> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:38:39 -0700
> From: john-at-wagoneers.com
> To: bkc-reply-at-DreamFire.com
> CC: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com; CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com; diesel-benz-at-digest.net
> Subject: fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
>
> alumaseal
>
> this kept a gm v6 running for a year longer... this is NOT a fix, it's a patch for
> old tired vehicles, or if you have a radiator puncture...
>
> also, if you're really stuck with a hole in your radiator you can try to use peppercorns,
> or pinch off the row(s) in a radiator.
>
> in this case bruce has a basket case engine that he will replace with a Diesel engine,
> he's just driving the car until he has time to sort out all the tech details... so
> this engine WILL NOT BE used again... by him... :)
>
> john
>
>
> -----
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS
> Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold
> buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education"
> Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012, Bruce Caruthers wrote:
>
> # Hey John.
> #
> # What was it you suggested for the coolant leaking on the M104 motor in my R129? The oil is getting into the coolant, and it leaks from one corner of the motor until it warms up enough.
> #
> # Thanks!
> # -bkc
> #
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:04:36 -0700
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Ernesto's Starter issue
You could lift the wheels one at a time and see if they spin freely both
directions.
> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:25:32 -0300
> Subject: Re: fsj: Ernesto's Starter issue
> From: erniesilva-at-gmail.com
> To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com
> CC: fsj-at-digest.net
>
> GRRRR, after some many little things I've repaired in my Wag I'm starting
> to think I'll have to take to a steel foundry and have it melted down!!!,
> or perhaps I should store it as is for a few months and have it complete
> disassembly so I can check every single piece of it.... I'll try to
wait....
>
> Jim, many thanks for your advices, I'll take a look at them when I can,
> today I can't work on it, I have to make some grills for my new home, if my
> right shoulder let me (after a few hours of one hand manual saw cutting
> yesterday)
>
> Have a nice Sunday guys.
> Ernesto.
>
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Not rolling could be a few things. If its in 4x4, the suspension,
> > drivelines and axles could be wound up (NP205, NP208, NP231 and some
other
> > 4x4 on loose surface only tcases do that) Possibly brakes sticking.
> >
> > I had the cage around the rear bearing in a Mopar trans break loose and
> > become a 1 way roller clutch (truck drove forward but only backed up a
> > little before jamming like the ebrake was on. It was a new one on the
trans
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 23:11:27 -0300
> >
> > > Subject: Re: fsj: Ernesto's Starter issue
> > > From: erniesilva-at-gmail.com
> > > To: fsj-at-digest.net
> >
> > >
> > > The replacement solenoid arrived last Monday noon so...
> > >
> > > Next Actions:
> > >
> > > > 1 - wait for the replacement.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Done
> > >
> > >
> > > > 2 - put it to work (next weekend after replacement arrives)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Done today, it took me a couple of hours because of some bolt problems
> > and
> > > difficult position to turn them.
> > >
> > >
> > > > 3 - try to repair some of the others, maybe I can use some Chinese
> > parts
> > > > to repair the English solenoid, or the other way.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not a chance, I'll store them as they are now, the Chinese one is
> > > assembled, the original one is disassembled.
> > >
> > > It started fine and I drove the Wag today for about 5 kilometers in the
> > > city, it worked almost fine.... it seemed to me it was a little "heavy"
> > >
> > > AND THERE IS ANOTHER PROBLEM!!!
> > >
> > > A few minutes ago (22:30 aprox) I decided to put it inside and 2
problems
> > > appeared:
> > >
> > > 1 - the clutch is not getting back as fast as expected, in some cases
it
> > > stays down for a few seconds.
> > > 2 - When I step down the Wag I decided to move it 1 meter forward, so I
> > > pushed it, or at least I tried, it seemed to me it not in neutral, so I
> > > checked the trans, it was in neutral.... weird, I pushed it again and
> > still
> > > blocked... so I pushed it backwards for 20 cm and it was fine, ok, then
> > > forward and it's blocked.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Something in the transfer case?....
> > >
> > > I must confess something to the list..... I've had the chance to engage
> > the
> > > 4x4, I don't even know the correct position of the levers, I've just
left
> > > them in the original position. It was not engaged the front
transmission
> > > (99% sure..).
> > >
> > > Ernesto.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:04:51 +0000
From: john <fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: xj: RE: fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
No jim, it's not a v6, neither is it a vw. Let it go. That was generic advice. He's got a 91 r129 inline six cylinder mercedes gas engine.
__john_at_http://wagoneers.com__
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Sender: owner-xj-at-digest.net
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:53:47
To: <john-at-wagoneers.com>; <bkc-reply-at-dreamfire.com>
Reply-To: xj-at-digest.netCc: <fsj-at-digest.net>; <xj-at-digest.net>; <cj-10list-at-yahoogroups.com>
Subject: xj: RE: fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
That is the VW VR6 engine. It needs the heads retightened I think. That's a
better question for the VWvortex group.
Hide2.8 L M104.900
Mercedes needed an compact 6 cylinder for their vans and asked VW if they
could use the VR6 Golf/Jetta engine. An agreement was reached and the engines
were sold semi completed to MB. Basically only the engine cover and aircleaner
housing is by MB. Refer to VW VR6
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M104_engine#section_1
> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:38:39 -0700
> From: john-at-wagoneers.com
> To: bkc-reply-at-DreamFire.com
> CC: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com;
CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com; diesel-benz-at-digest.net
> Subject: fsj: Re: the stuff to seal the leaking head?
>
> alumaseal
>
> this kept a gm v6 running for a year longer... this is NOT a fix, it's a
patch for
> old tired vehicles, or if you have a radiator puncture...
>
> also, if you're really stuck with a hole in your radiator you can try to use
peppercorns,
> or pinch off the row(s) in a radiator.
>
> in this case bruce has a basket case engine that he will replace with a
Diesel engine,
> he's just driving the car until he has time to sort out all the tech
details... so
> this engine WILL NOT BE used again... by him... :)
>
> john
>
>
> -----
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS
> Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold
> buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education"
> Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012, Bruce Caruthers wrote:
>
> # Hey John.
> #
> # What was it you suggested for the coolant leaking on the M104 motor in my
R129? The oil is getting into the coolant, and it leaks from one corner of
the motor until it warms up enough.
> #
> # Thanks!
> # -bkc
> #
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 19:28:04 +0000
From: john <fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Ernesto's Starter issue
Hang in there. Put it aside for a while. You'll come up with the parts and solutions. If it's not in the way or too expensive to keep hold on to it. You'll get all the bugs worked out and it'll be a lot of fun.
__john_at_http://wagoneers.com__
- -----Original Message-----
From: Ernesto Silva <erniesilva-at-gmail.com>
Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:25:32
To: Jim Blair<carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Reply-To: Ernesto Silva <erniesilva-at-gmail.com>Cc: <fsj-at-digest.net>
Subject: Re: fsj: Ernesto's Starter issue
GRRRR, after some many little things I've repaired in my Wag I'm starting
to think I'll have to take to a steel foundry and have it melted down!!!,
or perhaps I should store it as is for a few months and have it complete
disassembly so I can check every single piece of it.... I'll try to wait....
Jim, many thanks for your advices, I'll take a look at them when I can,
today I can't work on it, I have to make some grills for my new home, if my
right shoulder let me (after a few hours of one hand manual saw cutting
yesterday)
Have a nice Sunday guys.
Ernesto.
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com> wrote:
> Not rolling could be a few things. If its in 4x4, the suspension,
> drivelines and axles could be wound up (NP205, NP208, NP231 and some other
> 4x4 on loose surface only tcases do that) Possibly brakes sticking.
>
> I had the cage around the rear bearing in a Mopar trans break loose and
> become a 1 way roller clutch (truck drove forward but only backed up a
> little before jamming like the ebrake was on. It was a new one on the trans
>
> > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 23:11:27 -0300
>
> > Subject: Re: fsj: Ernesto's Starter issue
> > From: erniesilva-at-gmail.com
> > To: fsj-at-digest.net
>
> >
> > The replacement solenoid arrived last Monday noon so...
> >
> > Next Actions:
> >
> > > 1 - wait for the replacement.
> > >
> >
> > Done
> >
> >
> > > 2 - put it to work (next weekend after replacement arrives)
> > >
> >
> > Done today, it took me a couple of hours because of some bolt problems
> and
> > difficult position to turn them.
> >
> >
> > > 3 - try to repair some of the others, maybe I can use some Chinese
> parts
> > > to repair the English solenoid, or the other way.
> > >
> >
> > Not a chance, I'll store them as they are now, the Chinese one is
> > assembled, the original one is disassembled.
> >
> > It started fine and I drove the Wag today for about 5 kilometers in the
> > city, it worked almost fine.... it seemed to me it was a little "heavy"
> >
> > AND THERE IS ANOTHER PROBLEM!!!
> >
> > A few minutes ago (22:30 aprox) I decided to put it inside and 2 problems
> > appeared:
> >
> > 1 - the clutch is not getting back as fast as expected, in some cases it
> > stays down for a few seconds.
> > 2 - When I step down the Wag I decided to move it 1 meter forward, so I
> > pushed it, or at least I tried, it seemed to me it not in neutral, so I
> > checked the trans, it was in neutral.... weird, I pushed it again and
> still
> > blocked... so I pushed it backwards for 20 cm and it was fine, ok, then
> > forward and it's blocked.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Something in the transfer case?....
> >
> > I must confess something to the list..... I've had the chance to engage
> the
> > 4x4, I don't even know the correct position of the levers, I've just left
> > them in the original position. It was not engaged the front transmission
> > (99% sure..).
> >
> > Ernesto.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:37:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: Article: Charting U.S.-Market Diesel Take Rates, Prices, MPG, and More - Feature (fwd)
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/charting-us-market-diesel-take-rates-pri
ces-mpg-and-more-feature
-----
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS
Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold
buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
"A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education"
Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919)
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanx Stephen R... :)
Charting U.S.-Market Diesel Take Rates, Prices, MPG, and More - Feature
Smoking Diesels: Hey, Look, We Charted U.S.-Market Diesel Take Rates,
Prices, MPG, and More
Diesel's inroads into the land of gasoline.
If you havenb^Yt noticed that diesels are infiltrating American roads, itb^Ys
probably because they no longer trail black smoke. But $4 gasoline has made
diesels viable here, as have German brands that have improved upon this
technology in response to European market-engineering. Which is a funny
thing: Whereas European countriesb^Ttheir cities a hybrid-driverb^Ys
dreamb^Tpush
oil burners, the U.S. incentivizes EVs and hybrids even though our kind of
driving calls for the long range and high torque that diesels provide. But
even if the government doesnb^Yt get it, this chart shows that the people
dob^Tthe rich and frugal ones, at least.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/charting-us-market-diesel-take-rates-pri
ces-mpg-and-more-feature
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